Hank Scorpio Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, villa89 said: The problem with Bailey is the talent isn't there, its a key difference. We spent enough on him and his performance in Germany suggests there is. Statistically in Germany he's very close to Diaby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, CVByrne said: What is hard to understand about squad Vs team? 11 players make the first team but we need a squad of players to be successful. Watkins Diaby is a combination we all know that Watkins New Forward is another combination. New Forward Diaby is another We need different profiles players with different skills and attributes to make a rounded squad. This really shouldn't be hard to understand yet it seems to be so. Watkins Bailey Watkins Buendia Those were most played front two under Emery. Is the penny dropping? Different types of players for different situations What are you on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alreadyexists Posted July 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Ponky said: Legs, but no hamstrings apparently On the plus side; that’s two less things to go wrong… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 4 hours ago, MotoMkali said: The fact he's a better finisher, passer, dribbler, crosser. Is more creative, is faster and is younger. You are comparing stats from a season where doku was 18, a season from when he was 19, and season from when he was 20 vs Johnsons age 21 season. And if we just go by minutes - Doku Goal Contributions per 90 over 3 seasons (all of which younger than Johnson) is 0.378, Johnson goal contributions per 90 is 0.337. And that's ignoring the fact that doku should probably have had like 2.5x the assists he tallied this year but his teammates couldn't finish. Your also ignoring that johnson has had one in premier league and with awful forest team But your arguments certainly have more foundation and context than "eyeballs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 10 hours ago, duke313 said: What does it matter, they all played in Ligue 1. Well it matters to my curiosity about the comparison because I know Messi, Neymar and Mbappe have also produced in real leagues/competitions against non-comedy defences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, villa89 said: The problem with Bailey is the talent isn't there, its a key difference. Blagged his way all his career through to being one of the most coveted young wingers/forwards in Europe and putting up record numbers at one stage you reckon he did then? Would you say the likes of Delle Alli , Mario Balotelli or Freddy Adu had/have no talent as well? Edited July 21, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Blagged his way all his career through to being one of the most coveted young wingers/forwards in Europe and putting up record numbers at one stage you reckon he did then? Would you say the likes of Delle Alli , Mario Balotelli or Freddy Adu had/have no talent as well? Baileys first game he was electric - a real player. Cant help but think the injury/fitness was the bigger problem than lack of ability. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Doku would be an interesting one. Sort of signing where there's no pressure for him to make an instant impact with getting Diaby in, can ease him in via Europa and league cup and then up to him what sort of impact he makes in premier league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MWARLEY2 Posted July 21, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2023 Bailey has loads of ability. But he just doesnt have enough room in the Prem to shine. Better defenders and his injuries have spoilt his skillset . One that got away in all honesty as i thought we were getting a potential superstar 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, CVByrne said: What is hard to understand about squad Vs team? 11 players make the first team but we need a squad of players to be successful. Watkins Diaby is a combination we all know that Watkins New Forward is another combination. New Forward Diaby is another We need different profiles players with different skills and attributes to make a rounded squad. This really shouldn't be hard to understand yet it seems to be so. Watkins Bailey Watkins Buendia Those were most played front two under Emery. Is the penny dropping? Different types of players for different situations Edited July 22, 2023 by Don_Simon Off topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Doku is one of those that is still potential . His ceiling is huge and maybe Emery thinks its worth the risk vs potential reward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: Bailey has loads of ability. But he just doesnt have enough room in the Prem to shine. Better defenders and his injuries have spoilt his skillset . One that got away in all honesty as i thought we were getting a potential superstar He doesn't have enough room because he can't threaten them with his pace the way he did in bundesliga because he's been hurt. If he's fully fit they'll have to give him more room otherwise he'll just sprint down the outside of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Don_Simon said: Off topic, you are becoming more and more aggressive with your posts. You've always been a part of the forum whose thoughts I'd valued and appreciated, it's a shame you post like this now. On topic, squad options is good. I like squad options. Lol I think some of you often forget that, behind our user names, we are actual humans outside of Villa talk land. Different moods, different emotions on different days, constipation, woman problems, family problems, a beer too many, bad Charlie , or just sick of everyone in general etc If you value his thoughts, and usually like his posts, he's still the same bloke. I inadvertently take my real life shite out on the forum at times as well. It's not that serious. On topic, as you say, having quality squad options are good, and for some reason, it is as if some of our fans are terrified by the prospect. Edited July 21, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Lol I think some of you often forget that, behind our user names, we are actual humans outside of Villa talk land. Different moods, different emotions on different days, constipation, woman problems, family problems, a beer too many, bad Charlie , or just sick of everyone in general etc If you value his thoughts, and usually like his posts, he's still the same bloke. I inadvertently take my real life shite out on the forum at times as well. It's not that serious. On topic, as you say, having quality squad options are good, and for some reason, it is as if some of our fans are terrified by the prospect. Thing is Professor Emery is the man capable of making it work. We saw a little glimpse of his handling the squad in rotating Digne and Moreno last season. We will see much more of this in the new season which is good as it keeps the players motivated and focused. Edited July 21, 2023 by Zhan_Zhuang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Simon Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Lol I think some of you often forget that, behind our user names, we are actual humans outside of Villa talk land. Different moods, different emotions on different days, constipation, woman problems, family problems, a beer too many, bad Charlie , or just sick of everyone in general etc If you value his thoughts, and usually like his posts, he's still the same bloke. I inadvertently take my real life shite out on the forum at times as well. It's not that serious. On topic, as you say, having quality squad options are good, and for some reason, it is as if some of our fans are terrified by the prospect. Fair point. Don't agree entirely, but I get the theme. Post deleted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I love Doku but unless we are trying to be more tactically flexible (probably) or playing in a new system, I just don't think he is the best option. If we sign him, I'll be happy but I have a feeling we should go for someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Just watched 20 mins worth of his positive contributions, reminds me alot of a young zaha, the skill pace and forward drive if a little raw. Would be happy if we got him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 11 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Lol I think some of you often forget that, behind our user names, we are actual humans outside of Villa talk land. Speak for yourself, I am a God! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, nick76 said: Speak for yourself, I am a God! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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