nick76 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Geeks. No, this is Geeky… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 6 hours ago, HalfTimePost said: Ouch, the green bars are great but it's in all the metrics I'd expect to fall when he moves to the Prem and all the underlying bits are almost zero, maybe Emery's formation allows for this with the CM helping the RB out but I don't think so. Fairly sure this link is BS but those stats would've Worried me. He's a winger. The position thing for him is just broken. He's still 99th percentile in all those categories but goals as a winger though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, nick76 said: No, this is Geeky… I still cannot get over the fact that they paid £105m for Declan Rice It's beyond belief hilarious. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Steero113 said: I still cannot get over the fact that they paid £105m for Declan Rice It's beyond belief hilarious. See while I think £105m is too much, I think Rice is a brilliant player whereas Havertz for £65m is just hysterical, I just don’t think he’s that good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, nick76 said: See while I think £105m is too much, I think Rice is a brilliant player whereas Havertz for £65m is just hysterical, I just don’t think he’s that good. Rice is just a DM who has nowhere near the technical ability of say a Casemiro, Rodri or Busquets. Havertz was played out of position at Chelsea, I think he'll do well at Arsenal with the players he'll have around him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, Steero113 said: I still cannot get over the fact that they paid £105m for Declan Rice It's beyond belief hilarious. If Kroenke doesn't get the desired return on this outlay, he will shut off the tap for good, mark my words. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, duke313 said: Rice is just a DM who has nowhere near the technical ability of say a Casemiro, Rodri or Busquets. Havertz was played out of position at Chelsea, I think he'll do well at Arsenal with the players he'll have around him. Think you'll be surprised how much control Rice adds to that midfield. At the top level, price is almost entirely irrelevant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 17, 2023 Moderator Share Posted July 17, 2023 Duku talk only please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lexicon Posted July 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Duku talk only please. Big fan of them - not easy to find where I live but a great source of nutrition 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Journeyman footballer - scored four goals in national league as a centre forward for York City last season. Biggest claim to fame is he scored against Wrexham so has half a chance of being on the new Netflix series. NOT good enough for where we want to be. Monchi out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) This one may never have been a goer… sounds like we’ll be wrapping up the Diaby deal shortly… New offer’s been submitted.. Edited July 17, 2023 by Jas10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jas10 said: This one may never have been a goer… sounds like we’ll be wrapping up the Diaby deal shortly… New offer’s been submitted.. I'd like both and felix. We could probably do with 3 wingers, ramsey and another 2nd striker type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: I'd like both and felix. We could probably do with 3 wingers, ramsey and another 2nd striker type. Expensive game… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: I'd like both and felix. We could probably do with 3 wingers, ramsey and another 2nd striker type. That would be upwards of 500k p/w in wages for the 3 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Steero113 said: That would be upwards of 500k p/w in wages for the 3 players. We could probably manage something like that for one or two “exceptional talents”, if we get rid of a few players (esp the high earners who barely contribute). A couple of top class players on, say 180-200k… I’d guess that it’s doable and manageable but we need a proper “return on investment”… something we’ve been shite at in the past… Collective transfer fees are going to be massive if we do that kind of business though… I wonder how far we can actually stretch with it being feasible and manageable… Apparently (going off Unai comments) we could and probably would have done a deal with Felix had Chelsea not stepped in… it was “not impossible” at the time… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Steero113 said: That would be upwards of 500k p/w in wages for the 3 players. All we need to do is shift Digne Easier said than done anyway… same goes for Phil… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Kiwivillan said: Is Doku like Goldberg getting soft quick win against Lesnar because crocked? I hope he isn’t green and talentless like Goldberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 17, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17, 2023 Different player to Diaby, more of an out and out true winger/wide mid compared to the more modern forward style of Diaby. Arguably he could become a similar type of player, he's good enough with the ball, but would adjust to being more of a true goalscoring threat and playing closer to the centre and around the box. Its pretty clear Diaby is who we want and he's the better fit for what we need based on what Emery was going for last year. We need that second striker/versatile forward who can mix winger, striker and attacking mid together. Doku isn't that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDVILLAN Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 I love the fact that doku is from royal stock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 17 hours ago, Jas10 said: I love FBref stats and the insight they provide, but sometimes it’s the basic stuff which provides the most insight. Last season he made 29 appearances in the league, but only 13 of them were starts. So clearly there’s a mismatch between these stats and the actual impact he has on the first team. My assumption would be that coming off the bench regularly leads to some distortions of the per 90 data. Hypothetical example 1 dribble in a 10 minute cameo against a tired defence = 9 dribbles per 90 which is the best in Europe, and in reality is completely different to a player who completes 9 successful dribbles in one game. Not saying he’s a bad player or anything, obviously he’s got a lot of talent but extra context is needed for the stats and in this case it’s probably over exaggerated some of his positive attributes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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