Anything11 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 7 hours ago, AvonVillain said: I think it's difficult to make a solid case that the motivation is completely about money (was that him pictured on his private jet incidentally?), so for a 25 year old entering his peak years to essentially abandon his career for a non-competitive league is pretty astonishing. You've sort of already said it - but any footballer with such proven ability as Moussa doing any such thing in their prime is plainly baffling. I absolutely question his mentality. I think criticising someones "mentality" because their motivations don't align with your idea of what they should be is total brain dead bollocks 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 goodluck to moussa. all round pleasant guy and supplied us with some good numbers last season that got us 4th. godspeed 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post carlitobrigante Posted July 20 Popular Post Share Posted July 20 (edited) 10 hours ago, AvonVillain said: I think it's difficult to make a solid case that the motivation is completely about money (was that him pictured on his private jet incidentally?), so for a 25 year old entering his peak years to essentially abandon his career for a non-competitive league is pretty astonishing. You've sort of already said it - but any footballer with such proven ability as Moussa doing any such thing in their prime is plainly baffling. I absolutely question his mentality. People generally these days have got to try and be more open to other perspectives. You might see it as 'astonishingly abandoning his career', which i think is very naïve and blinkered reasoning on your part. What some see as giving up on his career, he might see it as a chance to live in a new country, help to grow a new and exciting cash rich league, where he can be paid handsomely and set his family up for generations to come, have a very good chance of actually winning titles, whilst getting to play for a true French legend in Blanc, alongside other French legends such as Benzema and Kante, all while only being 25 and having plenty of time to try other leagues and have more challenges to come. All the while doing this in a better climate, and a place with a culture that he might feel more comfortable with for his family to grow up in and for his wife might be more happy. However some of us blinded by our claret and blue lenses, we don't even consider any of that, and cant fathom why he would be interested in this move at all! There's some very closed off thinking and lack of consideration for differing perspectives everywhere these days. It's as though the Premier League is the only football that matters, and if you don't want to play in it then you've got no ambition and a poor mentality? Its worth remembering that as passionate fans of Aston Villa, our own perspective is going to be radically different to actual players, who don't have a life times passion for supporting the club. Edited July 20 by carlitobrigante 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Just did not look happy for latter half of his tenure. Off-field unsettling badly affected his form. Can’t knock him. Cya Moose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 (edited) Kante, who is in the same national team as him so they will have likely spoken, has proven that Saudi isn’t a guaranteed death knell to your career. He’s on his way back to yhe PL with Spam so we may see Moussa again one day. Kante is also 8 years older than Moussa. I for one am gutted. Like the player and think this is purely a value exercise by the club and no sleight on his ability. If he goes he goes with my very best wishes as he’s always been a model pro. Edited July 20 by Steero113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 5 minutes ago, lexicon said: Kante was terrible in the Euros, but yeah, still played every game I suppose. Interesting because aside from the Spain game he was rated amongst the best French players in every game, of which he started every single one. Also, nothing to do with my post, the point of which was to say he’s linked back to England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Both things can be true, a move to Saudi is probably bad for his career in a purely footballing sense, but doesn't mean to say it's the wrong choice bigger picture wise, if he and his family are going to be happier there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 14 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Interesting because aside from the Spain game he was rated amongst the best French players in every game, of which he started every single one. Also, nothing to do with my post, the point of which was to say he’s linked back to England. The problem with him was that he kept pushing forward into space, receiving the ball and the attack breaking down with him because of his touch, pass, attempted dribble. He is still an excellent defender and I imagine his ball-winning stats were still very good, but for me, he was holding France back a lot in attack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 41 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Interesting because aside from the Spain game he was rated amongst the best French players in every game, of which he started every single one. Also, nothing to do with my post, the point of which was to say he’s linked back to England. Yeah is performances lead to an article in Athletic about would people re-evaluate the Saudi Pro League due to how well he and other players from there were performing in Euros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 My son was just watching the highlights of the Liverpool game. Those last 10 mins were joyful chaos, gonna miss Diaby and Duran. Defo need at least one replacement. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 20 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20 14 hours ago, Jenko#4 said: Do you think when it was obvious that Felix wasn’t coming, we’ve said to Diaby that if he signs with us we can put him in the shop window for the Euros, then if our first choice becomes available the following summer, we will happily sell him to Saudi after the tournament so he can earn the big bucks? No. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 2 hours ago, CVByrne said: Yeah is performances lead to an article in Athletic about would people re-evaluate the Saudi Pro League due to how well he and other players from there were performing in Euros Let's remember that the actual Saudi Team are no mugs either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 13 hours ago, Anything11 said: 21 hours ago, AvonVillain said: I think it's difficult to make a solid case that the motivation is completely about money (was that him pictured on his private jet incidentally?), so for a 25 year old entering his peak years to essentially abandon his career for a non-competitive league is pretty astonishing. You've sort of already said it - but any footballer with such proven ability as Moussa doing any such thing in their prime is plainly baffling. I absolutely question his mentality. I think criticising someones "mentality" because their motivations don't align with your idea of what they should be is total brain dead bollocks 100% agree. An absolutely awful post. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 9 hours ago, Steero113 said: Interesting because aside from the Spain game he was rated amongst the best French players in every game, of which he started every single one. Also, nothing to do with my post, the point of which was to say he’s linked back to England. Because he kante-ifys the game. He can't progress the ball, and loses it frequently and he never shows for passes but he wins it back so frequently it seems like he's everywhere. He wins motm because he regresses what should be a progressive team to a plodding team with no ability to progress the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 Has the plane landed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 14 hours ago, Anything11 said: I think criticising someones "mentality" because their motivations don't align with your idea of what they should be is total brain dead bollocks Don't visit the Grealish thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAlex Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Good luck too him. Life's too short, enjoy the money, enjoy a nice lifestyle for you and your kids. Thank you for helping us finish 4th and receive a tidy profit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ender4 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 What do we feel the percentage chance is of Diaby leaving Villa for Saudi? 25%? 50? 80? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 29 minutes ago, ender4 said: What do we feel the percentage chance is of Diaby leaving Villa for Saudi? 25%? 50? 80? It’s done, 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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