Anything11 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 It shows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 17 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, Anything11 said: It shows You're adding a lot to the debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 I sorta feel like there should be a limit to the number of times an individual poster can post in a thread per day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 We need this sale to get done.. FAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 17 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17 7 minutes ago, Panto_Villan said: I sorta feel like there should be a limit to the number of times an individual poster can post in a thread per day. Good luck in your pursuit of control over the internet, did you have anything to add that was relevant to Diaby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Segundo Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, Villan_of_oz said: Using stats to defend Diaby is no different than using stats to defend Southgate.... Neither pass e test... I think there's some merit in this "eye test" argument but I don't come to the same conclusion. My eyes were mostly telling me Diaby was often wasteful and ineffective, especially with crosses and shots, and a bit of a lightweight. Didn't seem able to beat a man and often lacked composure. I found him pretty frustrating most of the season and he certainly did not look like a £50m player to me. The stats tell me he was actually pretty effective despite all that . Way more than, say, Bailey was before he found his mojo. And I think he looked a lot better towards the end of the season. So to my mind if he was able to deliver stats like that when not looking great, while adjusting to a new, faster, more physical league, new system and environment etc. then imagine what he might be capable of once settled in and starting to play consistently well. There is/was potential for a lot more this coming season and I'll be slightly disappointed if we don't get to see what he could have done.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 17 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, El Segundo said: I think there's some merit in this "eye test" argument but I don't come to the same conclusion. My eyes were mostly telling me Diaby was often wasteful and ineffective, especially with crosses and shots, and a bit of a lightweight. Didn't seem able to beat a man and often lacked composure. I found him pretty frustrating most of the season and he certainly did not look like a £50m player to me. The stats tell me he was actually pretty effective despite all that . Way more than, say, Bailey was before he found his mojo. And I think he looked a lot better towards the end of the season. So to my mind if he was able to deliver stats like that when not looking great, while adjusting to a new, faster, more physical league, new system and environment etc. then imagine what he might be capable of once settled in and starting to play consistently well. There is/was potential for a lot more this coming season and I'll be slightly disappointed if we don't get to see what he could have done.. I will be disappointed too, I have never claimed he was a rubbish player. I just didn't like the fact that he seemed content going to the Saudi league. Maybe he has his reasons, maybe my conclusions are correct. It doesn't really matter, if he goes then it will be a disappointment that be didn't stick around and prove everyone wrong, like Leon has done so emphatically. The differences of opinion that I seem to be having, is that I don't see him as integral to the team (yet) and if he goes I have complete faith that the Unai and the recruitment team with fill whatever void they deem his absence leaves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichiBoi11 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 57 minutes ago, Jas10 said: We need this sale to get done.. FAST. A-Train is the fast one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 15 minutes ago, RichiBoi11 said: A-Train is the fast one 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Im disappointed, he is a quality player and we haven't had the privilege of having too many come in to the club. However I trust that the club woudlnt let him go if they didnt feel there was a better option available and it wasnt int the clubs interests. I get the feeling I am not going to be able to get too attached to players in this new trajectory, and I'm sure thats exactly how the payers feel towards the clubs too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Don't understand the rumour he is off, he got 19 goals or assists last season and that includes a period when he was struggling with form. I think that was a decent first season even sometime he was a bit frustrating in the final delivery. You have to give players some time to improve, look at Bailey for example. It looks like we are replacing players rather rapidly and our tight-knit side from last year will be undergoing a big overhaul. Might take a while to bed in and if we carry wheeling and dealing i think we will have a slow start to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 who wins in a footrace between prime Gabby and Diaby? I only ask because we were always told how fast Diaby was but I dont ever remember being blown away by his pace 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 17 Popular Post Share Posted July 17 (edited) 48 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: who wins in a footrace between prime Gabby and Diaby? I only ask because we were always told how fast Diaby was but I dont ever remember being blown away by his pace I was wondering if there will ever be a boy born who can swim faster than a shark. Edited July 17 by PaulMcGrath_5 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 5 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: who wins in a footrace between prime Gabby and Diaby? I only ask because we were always told how fast Diaby was but I dont ever remember being blown away by his pace If Gabby ran with better technique he'd have been 3 rockets up the **** rapid. I remember Gabby training with the 200/400m sprinter Michael Johnson one summer at his sports camp where they improve players running technique to find more speed. Not sure how long Gabby was there but he came back and still ran bolt upright like he did before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 7 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: I was wondering if they’ll ever be a boy born who can swim faster than a shark. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 17 VT Supporter Share Posted July 17 15 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Don't understand the rumour he is off, he got 19 goals or assists last season and that includes a period when he was struggling with form. I think that was a decent first season even sometime he was a bit frustrating in the final delivery. You have to give players some time to improve, look at Bailey for example. It looks like we are replacing players rather rapidly and our tight-knit side from last year will be undergoing a big overhaul. Might take a while to bed in and if we carry wheeling and dealing i think we will have a slow start to the season. I think it's just a case of the money on the table for him is too good to turn down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panto_Villan Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Suspect it’s just a case of Monchi and Unai pricking their ears up at interest from Saudi, knowing they’d probably overpay. Diaby has been fine. Good stats overall in a season where his form fluctuated. I’m doubt Unai is going out of his way to sell him, but I think he probably thinks we could get better for whatever price tag is being discussed. I’d be fine with him staying, and I’d be fine with him leaving for big money. Selling players that aren’t guaranteed starters for big money is a good place to be as a club. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 24 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: who wins in a footrace between prime Gabby and Diaby? I only ask because we were always told how fast Diaby was but I dont ever remember being blown away by his pace Gabby, by a considerable margin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Think gabby and Kyle walker were our fastest players in recent times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 30 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: I was wondering if they’ll ever be a boy born who can swim faster than a shark. I’m so disappointed in you… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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