sharkyvilla Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 3 minutes ago, mole86 said: Literally everyone on this board knows that’s why we sold Luiz, because we needed the money. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t keen on going to Juve as well though. What I suspect might have happened is that we said we aren't going to give out £150k+ contracts as we have to stay below 80% of turnover and now would be the best time for both parties to make the move. We get the money to make us compliant and Doug gets a bumper payday and new challenge at a huge club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, rodders0223 said: Terrible waste for the player and the club if he's off to Saudi. He was flying last season but I did think about the halfway stage of the season he wasn't playing or he was getting dragged off on 60 and honestly I said it on here he didn't look arsed. He looked like he wanted to be in Leverkusen. Now now Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Panto_Villan said: Duran? Think that's about wanting to play every week rather than wanting to move to another club because he's disloyal. And I still think we have made it clear we are open to selling to other clubs for PSR reasons. Edited July 12 by Leeroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Twist the narrative until you make it fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 6 hours ago, TRO said: I have a feeling you will.....Diaby will go and an exciting replacement will come in. I think when you dig deep in to the merits of these deals, a pattern emerges.....both were lightweight at times. It's no surprise to me, that full backs have been targeted, and while Dougie was a fine player, in certain aspects, he was also not a No 6 in the traditional sense, for which he spent most time playing there, for no fault of his own, and we are well deployed in those more advanced area's, so that deal made sense to me.....Diaby for me, while technically gifted, had a question mark over his effectiveness, sure he had moments of high quality, but was those moments enough to be a constant threat....I saw him drifting in and out of games, in a frustrating fashion. These are not bad players, far from it, but are they really a match for their reputations?.... that's very subjective. I fancy Unai and Monchi, know exactly what they are doing, and with that looking forward to the outcome. I think, this forthcoming season, we will be more resilient, without losing our creative, cutting edge.....I think a bit more controlled aggression, and pace, will enter the fray, and we will become harder to play against. I am not disappointed, by the dealings at all, I think I can see, where its all going. I'm sorry but I don't agree. It took 2 seasons before we saw the best of Bailey and to give up on a player who is technically gifted as well as very quick after one season doesn't sit good with me. There is room for smaller players. It's going to depend who we bring in as a replacement and how quickly they fit in but seen it before when you make to many changes too quickly it doesn't always work out the way you want 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 4 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: This guy? How has 'Big package' avoided the Kenneth treatment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted July 12 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12 5 minutes ago, Tom13 said: How has 'Big package' avoided the Kenneth treatment. It hasn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Won't believe anything until it has CJTC. Certified Jacob Tanswell Confirmation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 3 hours ago, Steero113 said: Fastest player at the club... 12th fastest in the league according to PL data. One year that was Trezeguet yet he was unable to go past anyone. He also hit that top speed when running back to defend (can't fault the effort). Diaby was actually really disappointing for a good half of the season. Stats can say what they like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 3 hours ago, Steero113 said: Fastest player at the club... 12th fastest in the league according to PL data. One year that was Trezeguet yet he was unable to go past anyone. He also hit that top speed when running back to defend (can't fault the effort). Diaby was actually really disappointing for a good half of the season. Stats can say what they like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolta Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 3 hours ago, Steero113 said: Fastest player at the club... 12th fastest in the league according to PL data. One year that was Trezeguet yet he was unable to go past anyone. He also hit that top speed when running back to defend (can't fault the effort). Diaby was actually really disappointing for a good half of the season. Stats can say what they like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Just now, Rolta said: Stats can say what they like. You realise how mental that comment is don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 3 hours ago, Steero113 said: Fastest player at the club... 12th fastest in the league according to PL data. He's quick enough. He still didn't have a good season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Just now, Tomaszk said: He's quick enough. He still didn't have a good season. Except he did well on every offensive metric. Sorry mate, but people are blinded by his £50m (lol) price tag and expecting him to be some messiah or something. Except he was actually £35m and did well comparatively for his first season in England. The same season we made it to the CL. He was quite literally our 3rd best player in terms of output last season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Bidding war? Quote Urgent - Musa Diaby's Agent (Mohamed Ammar): The club #النصر contacted Moussa Diaby in recent days There is a competition between Al-Nasr and Al-Ittihad for the player, and neither club has come up with him at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 12 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12 (edited) Let him go... No stress He clearly has loads of potential but we didn't see all of it... What we did see is that he is moody and mentally fragile... Next! UTV Edited July 12 by Villan_of_oz 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 5 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: What we did see is that he is moody and mentally fragile... Based on what? Maybe he's struggled with settling into Birmingham? Maybe his wife and children have? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tomav84 Posted July 12 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 12 8 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: What we did see is that he is moody and mentally fragile... sorrywhatpardon?? we literally saw none of that. even when things weren't going for him in games he still dug in and kept going. whenever subbed off never once threw a tantrum. never saw him squabbling with other players for not passing to him etc i'm genuinely curious to what you're basing this comment on 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 12 VT Supporter Share Posted July 12 Just now, tomav84 said: sorrywhatpardon?? we literally saw none of that. even when things weren't going for him in games he still dug in and kept going. whenever subbed off never once threw a tantrum. never saw him squabbling with other players for not passing to him etc i'm genuinely curious to what you're basing this comment on Wanting to move to Saudi league is all the evidence you need 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 19 minutes ago, Steero113 said: You realise how mental that comment is don't you? Stats without context are pointless. Is that pace running with the ball or just running full stop. He is certainly not quick on the ball and I can't recall him ever taking a player on with pace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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