lexicon Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 19 minutes ago, Steero113 said: He's 55m euros on transfer market. But he’s a quality player who’s going to shove it up tonnes of doubters on here next season. We paid that, he signed a 5-year deal, so it's minus 11 mil for this season - is what I was getting at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Would we have booked the entire value of the transfer (£50m?), even though it is made up of add ons, that I presume are yet to all be triggered? Or would we book the initial amount paid (£35-40m)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Steero113 said: He's 55m euros on transfer market. But he’s a quality player who’s going to shove it up tonnes of doubters on here next season. Was reported as £35m + add ons by Ornstein so assume we had lower initial fee for FFP and add ons would come later based on number of games goals and assists etc.. Was reported elsewhere the total fee would be in excess of €50m, so that would be about £7m/€10m of add ons Aston Villa agree deal to sign Bayer Leverkusen winger Moussa Diaby - The Athletic (nytimes.com) Quote Aston Villa have agreed a deal to sign Bayer Leverkusen winger Moussa Diaby in a deal worth around €40m (£34.6m) plus add-ons. The 24-year-old had also attracted interest from Saudi Arabia’s Al Nassr. However, the France international has agreed personal terms with the Premier League club and is set to complete a move to Villa Park. Edited June 26 by CVByrne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Was reported as £35m + add ons by Ornstein so assume we had lower initial fee for FFP and add ons would come later based on number of games goals and assists etc.. Aston Villa agree deal to sign Bayer Leverkusen winger Moussa Diaby - The Athletic (nytimes.com) So, £28m book value left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: So, £28m book value left? Yes, as far as I'm aware we only pay add ons and account for them in the accounting year they are triggered. So he's £7m cost in amortisation per year and any add ons triggered that year. IF we sold him for £40m we would book a £12m profit. He was very productive in his first season so there's no chance we are actively trying to sell him. Would make no sense. Edited June 26 by CVByrne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Just now, CVByrne said: Yes, as far as I'm aware we only pay add ons and account for them in the accounting year they are triggered. So he's £7m cost in amortisation per year and any add ons triggered that year Gotcha, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Yes, as far as I'm aware we only pay add ons and account for them in the accounting year they are triggered. So he's £7m cost in amortisation per year and any add ons triggered that year. IF we sold him for £40m we would book a £12m profit. He was very productive in his first season so there's no chance we are actively trying to sell him. Would make no sense. I appreciate input like this as it helps a doofus like me understand it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 15 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Yes, as far as I'm aware we only pay add ons and account for them in the accounting year they are triggered. So he's £7m cost in amortisation per year and any add ons triggered that year. IF we sold him for £40m we would book a £12m profit. He was very productive in his first season so there's no chance we are actively trying to sell him. Would make no sense. I’d imagine at least some add ons were triggered due to our CL qualification. Edit: just to clarify that of course we shouldn’t sell him, he will be very valuable to us next season. Edited June 26 by Awol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 29 minutes ago, Awol said: I’d imagine at least some add ons were triggered due to our CL qualification. Edit: just to clarify that of course we shouldn’t sell him, he will be very valuable to us next season. I've no idea if we do individual add on's only or team add on bonuses. I think the team type bonuses have gone a bit out of fashion though. I think they are more player performance related. Goals, Appearances, International caps etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 No way he is leaving unless a stupid offer comes in. He was abit inconsistent but he had better stats than bailey did in his first season and look at him now. Diabs is going to be massive for us next season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I’m sure he is someone that we aren’t actively trying to sell but the Saudis could easily offer us a silly amount that we’d struggle to turn down—£60m plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 If we can get 60m i'd sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 40 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: I’m sure he is someone that we aren’t actively trying to sell but the Saudis could easily offer us a silly amount that we’d struggle to turn down—£60m plus. I don’t think Saudis will be splashing the cash like last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Just now, mikeyp102 said: I don’t think Saudis will be splashing the cash like last year I agree and as a result I’d be more than happy to see Diaby stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsieur Hazdazler Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) Would love to see him at Villa next season, but I think we just need to view basically any player as dispensable with the current strategy, provided the right fee is there (obviously someone like Dibu would require that fee to be beyond enormous). I wouldn't sell for a lower price but if we got offered significantly more than we paid and had replacement options I'd be fine with it Edited June 26 by Monsieur Hazdazler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted June 26 Visiting Supporter Share Posted June 26 Anything north of 40m and I’d sell him then go and buy Eze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 10 minutes ago, striker said: Anything north of 40m and I’d sell him then go and buy Eze. You make it sound so simple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 10 minutes ago, striker said: Anything north of 40m and I’d sell him then go and buy Eze. Eze's asking price is supposedly £60m just like Olise so I'd need a bid much higher than £40m to sell Diaby. He's also worth way more imo if we go by the prices quoted for others. Nevertheless, he's a quality player so we would be foolish to try cashing in when we've already gone through the year 1 bedding in pains and should hopefully benefit from him being fully adjusted to the PL next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 6 hours ago, Dodgyknees said: I appreciate input like this as it helps a doofus like me understand it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 4 hours ago, striker said: Anything north of 40m and I’d sell him then go and buy Eze. Eze wouldn’t come here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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