Hobsons Choice Posted October 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2023 46 minutes ago, sidcow said: I don't even remember a question about a shield or round? I'm guessing they are referring to the results from the previous survey? I think they said they were aggregating the results from this one and the last? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 14, 2023 Moderator Share Posted October 14, 2023 2 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Is what you get, when only season ticket holders are able to vote. Season ticket holders, members and anyone on the waiting list - so pretty much anyone who has been to Villa Park in the last couple of years. I get what you're saying in terms of how that affects the demographic, but beyond that they're looking at having to open it up to the general public, and then you get badgy mcbadgeface. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted October 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2023 1 hour ago, sidcow said: I don't even remember a question about a shield or round? The survey that got us the round badge is what I was referring to. Think it was around 67% wanted the round badge over the gas lamp or whatever else it was. We had chose but Heck don't agree so now its a sheild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: Season ticket holders, members and anyone on the waiting list - so pretty much anyone who has been to Villa Park in the last couple of years. I get what you're saying in terms of how that affects the demographic, but beyond that they're looking at having to open it up to the general public, and then you get badgy mcbadgeface. Aston Villa written in Urdu 1874 in Arabic A Ghanaian Lion, turned upside down A Canadian Maple leaf for the " star "etc With the diversity of the fanbase Oh... and a spliff for the Lion... just to be generic and stereotype me and the other handful of Jamaican fans haha * On a serious note though, i get your point. Hopefully the designers will take ALL things into consideration and fit as much criteria as possible whilst executing a great design. Edited October 14, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 At least the Lion will be facing the left now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 7 hours ago, nick76 said: 85% disagree with you Can’t get more of one sided favourable in a survey like this than 85%. Glad they will likely keep it imo. It was not a thing on our badges before 2008 and now it's almost blasphemy to think it makes it harder to design a badge and is perhaps not needed. Not every team who won the European Cup feel the need to add stars to their badges for it. I'm all for respecting and remembering history, that's great but surely not everything needs to hark back to 82. Round badge. Star. Maybe try something new for once and who knows we may be pleasantly surprised, rather than always looking back 40 years for an answer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 So sounds like it's going to be a shield with Aston Villa/Aston Villa FC, 1874 and a star with the lion facing to the left, all done in claret and blue. I just hope it's not too busy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: I'm all for respecting and remembering history, that's great but surely not everything needs to hark back to 82. Everything? What else outside the badge talks about ‘82 to the non-Villa world…the badge is really the only consistent thing that flaunts that famous win. Other than that the fans have one chant about it…hardly OTT. 9 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: Round badge. Star. Wow, two things! 9 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: Maybe try something new for once and who knows we may be pleasantly surprised Or it can be a complete disaster…when we have something that fans voted for. 11 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: rather than always looking back 40 years for an answer Again…always, we only do it for the badge. The chant is one of many chants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, villan95 said: So sounds like it's going to be a shield with Aston Villa/Aston Villa FC, 1874 and a star with the lion facing to the left, all done in claret and blue. I just hope it's not too busy. I spoke to the shield and he said he can fit us in his schedule… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, nick76 said: Everything? What else outside the badge talks about ‘82 to the non-Villa world…the badge is really the only consistent thing that flaunts that famous win. Other than that the fans have one chant about it…hardly OTT. Wow, two things! Or it can be a complete disaster…when we have something that fans voted for. Again…always, we only do it for the badge. The chant is one of many chants. Bro theirs a reason why opposition fans (and not just local teams) mention that's all we ever bang on about. I disagree, and its referenced very regularly. Maybe it's time to push and make some new positive history. After all 40 years is a damn long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said: Bro theirs a reason why opposition fans (and not just local teams) mention that's all we ever bang on about. I disagree, and its referenced very regularly. Maybe it's time to push and make some new positive history. After all 40 years is a damn long time. So when we make that new positive history then we can crow about it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Demitri_C said: 30% didnt mond what direction the lion faced?? Are you for real **** getting back to facing the right way ffs Maybe that 30% wanted the lion looking straight ahead ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Staunchly against the star but if 85% of the fan base want it, then I'll learn to live with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) I favour just a stand alone LION.... with a star...nothing more, nothing less. No shield or round badge, no additional words ....when you start adding things, thats when the division comes in.......Everyone knows what the Wolves wolf head is....no more needs to be stated. A distinctive Lion to our liking......says all you need to know, its Aston Villa.....want to know more, look it up. The history is far reaching and its impossible to reference it all.....We just need a Branded Lion to say it all....Thats how modern Marketing works....check out all the major Brands....and we need a Global Motif to be readily recognised, without spelling it out. Edited October 15, 2023 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveburnside Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 You can have the best crest of all time, but if the team isn't successful it doesn't make a difference. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 I’m worried it’s going to end up as a crest, inside a shield… sort of like Burnley’s or Crewe Alexander’s. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xela Posted October 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2023 Just now, Tayls said: I’m worried it’s going to end up as a crest, inside a shield… sort of like Burnley’s or Crewe Alexander’s. Badge inside a shield, on a crest, on a roundel, in a gas lamp. The Inception of identities! 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Mark Albrighton said: 4 hours ago, Demitri_C said: 30% didnt mond what direction the lion faced?? Are you for real **** getting back to facing the right way ffs Depends if you mean the right way or the right way… It was the right way 150 years ago! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted October 14, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 14, 2023 Honestly the current star is extremely unobtrusive and I would wager most opposition fans have no idea it is even on our badge (bitter local rivals apart). Compared to the stars on Nottingham Forest’s badge it is restrained in the extreme! As long as it remains fairly unobtrusive in the new badge then I am happy to keep it. It’s part of our modern history and it’s fine to remember and celebrate that. A reminder that we reached the pinnacle and we want to get back there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted October 16, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted October 16, 2023 Everyone seems to crave something different to anyone else, something totally unique. So I suggest the head of a lion on the body of a platypus on an irregular quadrilateral. This will be instantly recognisable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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