duke313 Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 I wonder how different it would have went if Alemany had joined instead of Monchi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 46 minutes ago, villarule123 said: Let's wait and see. I can remember these kind of comments when we had our post-Benteke trolly dash in 2015. So we wait to moan when he makes a mistake as opposed to give him credit when he doing a good job.? He has done a great job so far - im behind him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: So we wait to moan when he makes a mistake as opposed to give him credit when he doing a good job.? He has done a great job so far - im behind him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted June 25 VT Supporter Share Posted June 25 13 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: So we wait to moan when he makes a mistake as opposed to give him credit when he doing a good job.? He has done a great job so far - im behind him Bookmarked for when you're slagging him off at some point next season when one of the new signings has a bad spell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 minute ago, villarule123 said: Bookmarked for when you're slagging him off at some point next season when one of the new signings has a bad spell. Why would i slag him off? Think you are being awfully negative expecting him to fail. Enjoy it man we had a great season and monchi is a big part of that Have a look in the purslow thread if you think ill be slagging off our recruitment team Not everything goes to feeling really positive about the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 25 minutes ago, duke313 said: I wonder how different it would have went if Alemany had joined instead of Monchi. Sold off our tv rights for next 5 yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wezbid Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 19 minutes ago, villarule123 said: Bookmarked for when you're slagging him off at some point next season when one of the new signings has a bad spell. That's the difference with some posters. When things aren't going so smoothly, there isn't an instant need to call something out of jump on a member of staff/player. Plenty do instantly turn sour but there are plenty who react calmer and try and look beyond a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 43 minutes ago, duke313 said: I wonder how different it would have went if Alemany had joined instead of Monchi. Interesting question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, villarule123 said: Let's wait and see. I can remember these kind of comments when we had our post-Benteke trolly dash in 2015. A bit of balance is good. I replied to JV in another thread that the sort of thing we are doing works out about 50% of the time. It worked out selling Platt, it worked out selling Yorke (in that we stayed top 6 and got Merson and Dublin with the money) and it worked out with Grealish. It most certainly did not work out when we sold Milner (and accepted Stephen Ireland,a player who didn't want to join, as a part exchange), it did not work out when we sold Young and Downing, and it did not work out when we sold Benteke and Delph in summer 2015. Monchi seems to be doing a good job for sure but there are no guarantees. Edited June 25 by Captain_Townsend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 44 minutes ago, duke313 said: I wonder how different it would have went if Alemany had joined instead of Monchi. Probably not a dissimilar outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt_1874 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 59 minutes ago, lexicon said: Nah, they're on FMinside sorting by potential first They've also subscribed to FMScout on Youtube & watching their videos on wonderkids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, duke313 said: I wonder how different it would have went if Alemany had joined instead of Monchi. lamal would be a villa player?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nick76 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 15 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Good article. I know it doesn’t have quotes or anything but was a nice read, feel we are in very good hands with Monchi and co. Only time will tell but I’m optimistic at this moment… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Monchi is first class, we have a real asset in him and his team. He is undertaking some serious surgery in a bear pit of an environment. He is getting through a onsterous workload and with the business being suggested, will transform the squad sorting PSR and setting us up for next season and beyond, its astonishing. No transfers is without risk, not everything will work you are dealing with people and their quirks, and given the number of transfers there will be plenty of ammunition for the grumblers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CVByrne Posted June 25 Popular Post Share Posted June 25 24 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Very good read and I completely agree with the points made there.Key ones for me. 1) Luiz exit was planned around 18 months ago. I think for sure going after Tielemans meant he would be settled by the time Luiz moved on this summer and ready to slot into CM. 2) Barkley is added depth/experience in the similar CM role, I really do think Emery loves him and personally pushed for Barkley. Emery has an outstanding record at signing older players and massively improving them even later in their careers. He must see Barkley as a bargain. 3) Luiz sale covered our PSR shortfall. I think it had to be around £30m short as we requested PSR limit moved to £135m and we probably make in PSR calculations around 35-40m on Luiz sale. 4) We know Iroegbunam was to be sold, Emery didn't rate him and seems to be keen to add a right footed winger. So the deal with Dobbin makes good sense 5) Maatsen, we were very keen on him, LB is so so key for our system and Kellyman was needed as part of that deal. Monchi, Emery and team have planned and executed this very well. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoker Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I’ve read the John Townley article. Interestingly he says we received £13m for Tim from Everton, and we’re paying £9m for Dobbin. Nice little £4m for the transfer pot if true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 6 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Very good read and I completely agree with the points made there.Key ones for me. 1) Luiz exit was planned around 18 months ago. I think for sure going after Tielemans meant he would be settled by the time Luiz moved on this summer and ready to slot into CM. 2) Barkley is added depth/experience in the similar CM role, I really do think Emery loves him and personally pushed for Barkley. Emery has an outstanding record at signing older players and massively improving them even later in their careers. He must see Barkley as a bargain. 3) Luiz sale covered our PSR shortfall. I think it had to be around £30m short as we requested PSR limit moved to £135m and we probably make in PSR calculations around 35-40m on Luiz sale. 4) We know Iroegbunam was to be sold, Emery didn't rate him and seems to be keen to add a right footed winger. So the deal with Dobbin makes good sense 5) Maatsen, we were very keen on him, LB is so so key for our system and Kellyman was needed as part of that deal. Monchi, Emery and team have planned and executed this very well. Townley is a decent journo, big improvement on Ashley Preece. The take away for me was the 18months of planning gone into this window and the following sum up: "Villa’s long-term strategy, or a huge part of it, is to sign players who they can improve and potentially sell-on when the time is right. That, of course, will always allow them to stay one step ahead when it comes to PSR issues. Succession planning is believed to be a hugely important part of the club’s recruitment strategy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 10 minutes ago, thunderball said: Townley is a decent journo, big improvement on Ashley Preece. The take away for me was the 18months of planning gone into this window and the following sum up: "Villa’s long-term strategy, or a huge part of it, is to sign players who they can improve and potentially sell-on when the time is right. That, of course, will always allow them to stay one step ahead when it comes to PSR issues. Succession planning is believed to be a hugely important part of the club’s recruitment strategy." Which is basically operating like Brighton but reinvesting the profits in top class talent like Maatsen when the opportunity presents itself and then moving on one of the incumbents. Luiz was peak sale age and 2 years left on contract this summer. It is clearly the best time to sell him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 8 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Which is basically operating like Brighton but reinvesting the profits in top class talent like Maatsen when the opportunity presents itself and then moving on one of the incumbents. Luiz was peak sale age and 2 years left on contract this summer. It is clearly the best time to sell him. Which makes the reported fees all the more baffling. £42m might be for accounting reasons fair enough but even the £54m we thought we were getting is crazy low compared to similar players at his level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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