Thug Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 On 29/08/2023 at 20:38, Rds1983 said: I've never been to the Middle East and have little desire to do so, but I'm curious how Dubai has changed since becoming a tourist mecca? Saudi are clearly trying to follow the footsteps and get the social media influencers and celebrities to promote them as the place to be seen. But surely if you court the West to go there, it has to be hospitable to the West? It has to then be welcoming to all that tourism involves, be it alcohol, women's rights, or LGBT. Had Dubai's position on these things softened in recent year's? Here’s the issue. You will no doubt get all your information from the utter crap that is the western media. Talk to people who have been/lived/worked there and you’ll get a completely different story Make out the rest of the world as some kind of backward cannibals. What they really don’t want, is people to look at these other countries with their 0% income tax, practically zero crime rates, where people are actually scared of the police - and start questioning what the actual **** is going on over here. As you’ve never been to dubai, let me tell you people party hard, with every vice you can imagine. Police just look the other way. The laws are there to keep people in check. Do what you want, but do it in a respectable way. you can drink alcohol, and no one gives a shit. BUT if you drink alcohol and start fighting in the street or start smashing property.. they’ll shove u in a jail for a long time. They don’t care about LBGT stuff - if you keep it out of the public - but same applies to heterosexuals. ANY Lewd conduct is not accepted. If you’re the type of person who can’t go for 20 minutes without feeling your partners arse and feel you must do so in public - don’t go. If you can’t have a drink without picking a fight or smashing property - don’t go. If you can’t enjoy a night out without taking drugs - don’t go. For everyone else - all the drunk, drug fuelled clearings in the woods that cause trouble for everyone else and ruin everything won’t be there. So you’ll have an amazing time and not have to watch sad desperate chavs snogging/shagging in public - and feel safer than you ever will here. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Premier League clubs spent 2.3 billion in the summer yet the Saudi money is what will kill football 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I'm not sure how Henderson is going to cope there without his supply of Klopp inhalers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 23 hours ago, Zatman said: Premier League clubs spent 2.3 billion in the summer yet the Saudi money is what will kill football Yup. Saudi are not the problem, simply an example of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted September 5, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2023 Henderson has done an interview with the Athletic where he's pretty much claimed that money wasn't his motivation and he's gone to Saudi Arabia to help change attitudes there. I might not stop chuckling all day. 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 On 02/09/2023 at 13:57, Zatman said: Premier League clubs spent 2.3 billion in the summer yet the Saudi money is what will kill football English clubs are allowed to ruin the market, because of history or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted September 5, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 5, 2023 37 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: Henderson has done an interview with the Athletic where he's pretty much claimed that money wasn't his motivation and he's gone to Saudi Arabia to help change attitudes there. I might not stop chuckling all day. I would have been ok if he just came out and said, "**** hell - the money here is great!" - we know that and i cant blame him for earning a few generations of b/millions. But please stop being a cringy super hero - we know you are not Hendo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, HongKongVillan said: I would have been ok if he just came out and said, "**** hell - the money here is great!" - we know that and i cant blame him for earning a few generations of b/millions. But please stop being a cringy super hero - we know you are not Hendo Yeah, he might have got a bit of credit for saying the financial package was too good to refuse, combined with playing less at Liverpool and getting to play every week etc. He could have packaged it up a bit better. We all know he isn’t going to say a single word about LGBTQ whilst on the Saudi payroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 hours ago, HongKongVillan said: I cant blame him for earning a few generations of b/millions. His career earnings prior to the Saudi sell-out are already estimated at 50 million. Just how many future generations does he need to set up for life exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Henderson has done an interview with the Athletic where he's pretty much claimed that money wasn't his motivation and he's gone to Saudi Arabia to help change attitudes there. I might not stop chuckling all day. Says he would think about wearing rainbow laces but not if it disrespects the country. "Everyone should be respectful of religion and culture". But pretend Gods win, of course. Saudi Arabia, land of the free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 If it’s never been about money then why doesn’t Henderson give all the money he will earn in addition to what he was on at Liverpool to charity? Sounds reasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 5, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Genie said: If it’s never been about money then why doesn’t Henderson give all the money he will earn in addition to what he was on at Liverpool to charity? Sounds reasonable to me. Great idea, all of his earnings above his Liverpool salary donated to an LGBTQ+ charity and he'd certainly be heading in the right direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted September 5, 2023 Moderator Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, bobzy said: Saudi Arabia, land of the free If you look over the past years and direction of travel and change, then it’s remarkable how much less unfree it has become, though it’s still nowhere near free and open, but it is changing and this league is part of the change. Still not somewhere to look at as anything other than grotesque in many regards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, bobzy said: Says he would think about wearing rainbow laces but not if it disrespects the country. Someone should point out to him that it's illegal, so he very much won't be doing that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WallisFrizz Posted September 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2023 That interview is the most disingenuous load of garbage I’ve read in a long time. There are a hundred better football projects out there than the Saudi league, of course he’s gone for the money. He should just admit that because most would understand it. The questions about the LGBTQ+ community and how he’s let them down were an excruciating read. Says he still cares but that he’s not going to make a public gesture in Saudi because he’s going to respect the culture and religion. How about don’t move to a country where you can’t speak openly in support of a cause you apparently care about. Honestly, he’s awful. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zatman Posted September 5, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 5, 2023 8 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Henderson has done an interview with the Athletic where he's pretty much claimed that money wasn't his motivation and he's gone to Saudi Arabia to help change attitudes there. I might not stop chuckling all day. Saudi government: "I know what will make us change our long term policies, the words of a mediocre footballer Jordan Henderson who doesn't even play at one of our important teams" Whats next? Ross Barkley moving to Japan to help combat whaling 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 6 hours ago, bobzy said: "Everyone should be respectful of religion and culture". But pretend Gods win, of course. Saudi Arabia, land of the free Yeah, try practising another religion in Saudi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 7 hours ago, fightoffyour said: and he'd certainly be heading in the right direction. Seems a fair and locally appropriate punishment for him 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StewieGriffin Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, WallisFrizz said: That interview is the most disingenuous load of garbage I’ve read in a long time. There are a hundred better football projects out there than the Saudi league, of course he’s gone for the money. He should just admit that because most would understand it. The questions about the LGBTQ+ community and how he’s let them down were an excruciating read. Says he still cares but that he’s not going to make a public gesture in Saudi because he’s going to respect the culture and religion. How about don’t move to a country where you can’t speak openly in support of a cause you apparently care about. Honestly, he’s awful. This, really. Not sure if there are away fans for Ukraine in Poland? I assume so, but the reaction at the Scotland game (apart from the obvious rivalry) from the whole stadium will be interesting. Edited September 5, 2023 by StewieGriffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 7 hours ago, WallisFrizz said: That interview is the most disingenuous load of garbage I’ve read in a long time. There are a hundred better football projects out there than the Saudi league, of course he’s gone for the money. He should just admit that because most would understand it. The questions about the LGBTQ+ community and how he’s let them down were an excruciating read. Says he still cares but that he’s not going to make a public gesture in Saudi because he’s going to respect the culture and religion. How about don’t move to a country where you can’t speak openly in support of a cause you apparently care about. Honestly, he’s awful. Perfectly put. I don't know how he thought saying what he has would come across as anything other than just wordplay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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