Steero113 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 I see he's the new Emiliano Buendia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Just now, Steero113 said: I see he's the new Emiliano Buendia. Buendia wins more headers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Steero113 said: I see he's the new Emiliano Buendia. Not quite up to it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) One of the problems we are having with the New Villa is signing high profile players with no prem experience. They always, and I mean always, need time to bed in. If we can't afford to give them that time, or we need someone who can strengthen us immediately, then we need to change the profile of player we are targeting. Tielemans is sort of the one exception to the rule under Emery so far, and he was a somewhat opportunistic freebie, and isn't even playing. It strikes me we do need a few signings in future who are proven at Prem level. Of course they cost more. But that's what it will take to be where we want to be. We're so far off the top 5/6 it isn't funny, yet we keep talking about disrupting them. Ain't gonna happen with this type of signing I'm afraid. Edited September 3, 2023 by est1874 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, His Name Is Death said: But can it really be said that he's fallen below expectations when this was a well-known weakness of his before we bought him? He wasn't intended to fulfill a physically-dominant role in the system and now injuries to Mings, Moreno and Carlos mean we have to find ways to compensate for this, even if it means asking him to play in a style he's not comfortable with. Fair point ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 I don't know much about him before he signed. Everyone was excited about his passing ability which is fair enough. That said a defender's first job is to defend well. Now I'm thinking given villareal got to champions league semi finals and performed well with Torres playing, that he can't be an awful defender. It's not like the champions league isn't physical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 I’m hoping that he’s still settling in and trying to get used to playing with a new group of players. Pretty sure there were a few saying that both Mings and Konsa weren’t good enough for the PL in our first season, and look at them now. I was probably one of them saying that they were shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, His Name Is Death said: But can it really be said that he's fallen below expectations when this was a well-known weakness of his before we bought him? He wasn't intended to fulfill a physically-dominant role in the system and now injuries to Mings, Moreno and Carlos mean we have to find ways to compensate for this, even if it means asking him to play in a style he's not comfortable with. (I do think football fans often underestimate just how specific players' roles are and how dependent they are on the system ticking along nicely. I doubt there are very many players who can override this and compensate for the loss of a player who fulfills a different role. Perhaps this was less true in the past, and perhaps that's why people have this expectation of players taking charge when things go pear-shaped?) A centre back who's role isn't to compete physically?? Even if that's the plan on paper, it's simply not going to work in practice when we're playing in the most intense league in the world with top quality opposition looking to exploit any minor weakness they can find. There is certainly no space for such obvious weaknesses. Torres needs to toughen up fast. I think he can grow into the role but it's a steep learning curve and he needs to be doing all he can to get to the level we need him to be at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 One of the worst defensive displays you'll see, from him today. He's needs to get up to speed, and sharpish, because he looks slow and weak, with bad positioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, villan95 said: Buendia wins more headers Brilliant... to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 I think he was bought in to support Mings and Konsa and play as part of a back 3 or as a rotational option. If Emery had known Mings would be out for a season, I’m not sure Pau would be the signing he made. But we’re stuck with him so he needs to adapt quickly. The shame of it is, I’m not even sure we’re seeing the best parts of his game often enough. I get kind of fed up when posters give perfectly valid opinions and criticism and then others jump in and accuse them of scapegoating. Pau being a concern and the whole team playing badly can both be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 34 minutes ago, Steero113 said: I see he's the new Emiliano Buendia. He’s not that bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, villan95 said: Buendia wins more headers Didn’t stop the poor lad from getting torn to pieces on here did it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Paul33 said: Hope he improves but until he does, we have a problem ! I don't think he'll be improving much to be honest. This is him. Obviously he's been stitched up and thrown in immediately with Mings injury. That's not ideal. He's not a young player overawed or anything though. He's just playing his game and sometimes it works better than others. Hopefully he'll get more used to the rough and tumble but fundamentally he's not going to change IMO. Technical, progressive, crucial to spreading calmness through the team. Slow and weak for a man his size. Sometimes gives marked players death passes they've got about 5% of hanging onto. Not convinced he was the right buy for us for where we are. Hope to be hugely wrong come the end of the season and it's clicked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keener window-cleaner Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Next week we focus on turning and rushing back! He made a couple of mistakes today, but I don't care much about that, everyone does and he will learn. What was a bit more concerning is what seems to be lack of pace and slow on the turn, really hope it's a matter of adapting to the PL. Even if that will remain his other attributes probably still means he should be a starter, but we need to adapt how we defend if so. It was not good to see how vulnerable we were to the balls played in behind our defence. [Disclaimer: This is not part of a negative campaign against him, I support him 100% and have every hope that he will come good] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacketspuds Posted September 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2023 Torres has played 4 PL games so it is about time that we start to write him off. He can be this season’s Wesley. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Villarocker Posted September 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 hour ago, est1874 said: One of the problems we are having with the New Villa is signing high profile players with no prem experience. They always, and I mean always, need time to bed in. If we can't afford to give them that time, or we need someone who can strengthen us immediately, then we need to change the profile of player we are targeting. Tielemans is sort of the one exception to the rule under Emery so far, and he was a somewhat opportunistic freebie, and isn't even playing. It strikes me we do need a few signings in future who are proven at Prem level. Of course they cost more. But that's what it will take to be where we want to be. We're so far off the top 5/6 it isn't funny, yet we keep talking about disrupting them. Ain't gonna happen with this type of signing I'm afraid. We'll said! I liked what I saw from Pau today in terms of character. He's clearly been brought in to play a certain way and although he was robbed, gave the ball away repeatedly and, had a torrid time, he still persisted in sticking to the game plan. He needs time to get used to our pace of play. He won't get the same amount of time in the ball here, especially against the better teams who use the high press. Once he strengthens up a bit and gets used to the pace he will be fine. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Problem was his passing was also dreadful today. 72% from centre back isnt great Lets hope a one off 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Emery will like what he did with regards to passing. He has to keep trying, that's what he wants, he cant just start hoofing it because it's not going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, AndyM3000 said: Emery will like what he did with regards to passing. He has to keep trying, that's what he wants, he cant just start hoofing it because it's not going well. He has to start hoofing when there's not a pass on... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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