Sulberto21 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Every defender looks shit if the midfield aren’t pressing the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 The occasional nice pass aside, he’s rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHY Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 He is not the blood and thunder defender you need at places like St. James park and Anfield. He needs time to adjust to the pace of the PL. Let’s not start digging out players after a few games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 2 weeks for Langlet to get up to speed. His PL experience might just propel him right into the starting 11. If Diego is fit, Torres might take a seat for a spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Slow, weak and clumsy. Not one bit impressed with him so far bar a couple of decent passes, has looked dodgy in every game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Yep a bad game today, very bad. Too warly to write him off but he really has to improve as that was a really poor showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: The occasional nice pass aside, he’s rubbish. IDK why you bother tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) This fantastical idea that he’s some sort of amazing ball player is lost on me. If we want a decent passer of the ball back there, stick Tielemans at centre half. Defenders are in the team to stop the opposition from scoring. At the moment, he’s helping them. Needs to be a LOT better. Not half the player Mings is. @Tomaszk called it. Edited September 3, 2023 by Delphinho123 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Not good but our midfield crap today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 49 minutes ago, villan95 said: It's a genuine concern at the moment that he doesn't look suited to Premier League football. I said it when he signed it will take him about 18 months to adapt Its why none of the elite teams have ever went in for him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul33 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 hour ago, His Name Is Death said: This is exactly the sort of crap I mean. Do you realise how fickle this makes us look? Then, when his peformances pick up, like McGinn and Konsa's did, he'll be a top-class 'Rolls Royce' defender once again and the fact that he was being slated as Emery's potential 'downfall' will suddenly be forgotten. I said Torres was way short of Premier standard after Burnley in fairness. Skilled player but too soft and gets knocked off the ball too easily. Hope he improves but until he does, we have a problem ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: This fantastical idea that he’s some sort of amazing ball player is lost on me. If we want a decent passer of the ball back there, stick Tielemans at centre half. Defenders are in the team to stop the opposition from scoring. At the moment, he’s helping them. Needs to be a LOT better. Not half the player Mings is. @Tomaszk called it. He is an asset when we are not being pressured but a total liability when we are. Some say he needs to adapt and, if he is going to be a success in the PL, he will have to do so quickly. Torres really needs someone like Mings beside him, otherwise it's a recipe for disaster... and that's not the kind of cooking emery wants to be doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) I see the knives are out already lol. Edited September 3, 2023 by avfc1982am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 bring back richard dunne and james collins XD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted September 3, 2023 Author Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Villatillidie95 said: bring back richard dunne and james collins XD They were class for one season together Tbf! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 So what are people saying? At the moment it appears to me that one of the most important signings we have made in years and also our key signing this summer is actually kinda rubbish? That’s what it seems like I’m reading at the moment anyway… is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Look he needs time to adjust the Mings situation hasn't helped and Carlos going down now to. In saying that yes his a lovely pass, but he needs to defend better simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted September 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2023 Just now, Tayls said: So what are people saying? At the moment it appears to me that one of the most important signings we have made in years and also our key signing this summer is actually kinda rubbish? That’s what it seems like I’m reading at the moment anyway… is that correct? People just getting a bit upset and letting off a bit of steam about a bad performance on the back of some earlier also less convincing ones. We’ll get over it. Though as an aside this is why I choose not to concern myself with “BEST TRANSFER WINDOW EVER!!!!” type posts. I don’t think we ever know how good it was until much later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Name Is Death Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Paul33 said: I said Torres was way short of Premier standard after Burnley in fairness. Skilled player but too soft and gets knocked off the ball too easily. Hope he improves but until he does, we have a problem ! But can it really be said that he's fallen below expectations when this was a well-known weakness of his before we bought him? He wasn't intended to fulfill a physically-dominant role in the system and now injuries to Mings, Moreno and Carlos mean we have to find ways to compensate for this, even if it means asking him to play in a style he's not comfortable with. (I do think football fans often underestimate just how specific players' roles are and how dependent they are on the system ticking along nicely. I doubt there are very many players who can override this and immediately compensate for the loss of a player who fulfills a different role. Perhaps this was less true in the past, and perhaps that's why people have this expectation of players taking charge when things go pear-shaped?) Edited September 3, 2023 by His Name Is Death 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 He's a good footballer who plays in defence is how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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