JPJCB Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I could see him potentially being ok (if not spectacular) in a three person midfield in front of Luiz and kamara. That would enable him to use his stronger skills most effectively - I.e through balls and shooting. But that involves changing Emery’s entire system. He’s not press resistant enough to play in the double pivot and isn’t dynamic enough to do one of the wide player roles (like McGinn/Ramsey) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, JPJCB said: I could see him potentially being ok (if not spectacular) in a three person midfield in front of Luiz and kamara. That would enable him to use his stronger skills most effectively - I.e through balls and shooting. But that involves changing Emery’s entire system. He’s not press resistant enough to play in the double pivot and isn’t dynamic enough to do one of the wide player roles (like McGinn/Ramsey) I didn't blame Emery for last night but playing Tielemans in the role that Mcginn, Ramsay and Zaniolo have played in seemed strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 And most fans thought he'd be an upgrade in midfield. Very passive out of possession and not very constructive with it. I'm trying to figure out what he is supposedly good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BOF Posted September 28, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted September 28, 2023 I've not given up on this one yet, but it's fair to say he hasn't impressed yet. His lack of selection can currently be used as a bit of an excuse to not having form. But that won't last forever. What then counts against him are his comments in the press. Now I don't think anything he said was particularly out of order. He's a player unhappy with not playing. That, in itself, is a good thing. Emery said as much. But he's going to have to start taking the bull by the horns when he is on the pitch. He may also be getting hampered by generally starting in weaker sides. Maybe he'll get a start soon in a league side alongside the stronger players. But as of now he has a lot to do. A few stand-out performances though and we'll forget his stop-start beginning to his Villa career. He just isn't doing himself any favours right now. There's a player in there though. We know that. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 22 minutes ago, BOF said: I've not given up on this one yet, but it's fair to say he hasn't impressed yet. His lack of selection can currently be used as a bit of an excuse to not having form. But that won't last forever. What then counts against him are his comments in the press. Now I don't think anything he said was particularly out of order. He's a player unhappy with not playing. That, in itself, is a good thing. Emery said as much. But he's going to have to start taking the bull by the horns when he is on the pitch. He may also be getting hampered by generally starting in weaker sides. Maybe he'll get a start soon in a league side alongside the stronger players. But as of now he has a lot to do. A few stand-out performances though and we'll forget his stop-start beginning to his Villa career. He just isn't doing himself any favours right now. There's a player in there though. We know that. I totally get that argument and generally wouldn’t disagree with most of the points. In saying that, he looks bulky and very slow. Not sure starting games will fix that over the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Doesn't look up to speed with the way we play, unfortunately the only way for that to happen is to play matches. I suspect we'll see him starting ECL games for the foreseeable. Leicester fans are probably having a good laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie09 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Just now, duke313 said: Doesn't look up to speed with the way we play, unfortunately the only way for that to happen is to play matches. I suspect we'll see him starting ECL games for the foreseeable. Leicester fans are probably having a good laugh. Why are they? We signed him on a free, yes he’s had a bad start to his Villa career but he has ability, he just needs to get match fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Robbie09 said: Why are they? We signed him on a free, yes he’s had a bad start to his Villa career but he has ability, he just needs to get match fit. Because we were bigging him up as a great signing on a free, and so far, he's been rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philosopher Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) So this guy was dog shit last night! Lacks the maneuverability and speed of foot to play as advanced as he started last night. Just lost possession over and over again. Then got moved back after Dendonker came off and basically gave a away a goal. If he wants to start more matches, then he really needs to up his performance level. Currently Luiz is twice the player he is. Edited September 28, 2023 by Philosopher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Such a terrible signing. Get rid asap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 He needs to sort his game out quickly. He raises the point about not getting game time, when he does get it he has mostly looked shite. Not impressed with him so far. Not trying to write him off just yet, but based on what I've seen so far, I wouldn't be surprised to see him at another club next summer unless things improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 No amount of game time will make him faster and more physical and we certainly won’t change the system to suit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Clearly got an eye for a pass and you suspect in those comfortable 3-4 nil home games he will look very good. My issue is that he seems to have no presence in the midfield, he doesn't have pace, isn't a particularly good presser or great on the defensive side...not much left after that unfortunately. Top 6 teams don't have passengers in the midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, AVFCDAN said: Clearly got an eye for a pass and you suspect in those comfortable 3-4 nil home games he will look very good. My issue is that he seems to have no presence in the midfield, he doesn't have pace, isn't a particularly good presser or great on the defensive side...not much left after that unfortunately. Top 6 teams don't have passengers in the midfield. Belgian Ashley Westwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 He won a couple of duels when he came on against Chelsea and put himself about, and to be honest, after having a hand in both late goals VS Palace, I was pretty hopeful. But there's no hiding from the fact of how bad he was last night. Still too early to judge fully though IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, Zatman said: Belgian Ashley Westwood Ashley Westwood put in 1000x the effort Tielemans does. I know which one I’d rather have as a squad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Zatman said: Belgian Ashley Westwood Ashley Westwood was mobile at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 He was terrible in a team that played terribly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, DJBOB said: No amount of game time will make him faster and more physical and we certainly won’t change the system to suit him. no, but some time working on your physicality will. I hope the club pointed a large finger towards the gym establishment for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyFox Posted September 28, 2023 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 28, 2023 I must admit, I’m really not surprised he has been poor. Youri needs a run of games to even get going, granted I don’t watch you week in week out, but I thought he was going into a tough team to break into…. I wouldn’t say he is better than any of your midfielders prior to his arrival. A squad player at most, but unfortunately he can’t perform that role due to needing constant game time. I think when we were good, he was benefiting from the players around him lifting his game, and making up for his inadequacies…. He will probably go out on loan in January….. just be thankful that you didn’t have to pay a transfer fee for him…. He probably should have stayed with us……… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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