MaVilla Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, briny_ear said: I think there’s a plaice for this sort of speculation. indeed, who doesnt like a shoal of interesting threads to peruse? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 ….but these player threads are where you can debate the merits or otherwise, how it might change the set up/formation, it’s not just about the strength of a rumour. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, av1 said: Thanks for the response mate. But I guess that poses then another question. You’ve made your fellings known about Rodger’s in the same way we feel about Gerrard. But how do you apportion the blame? The manger was a prat but surely if the good players you have down tools then that is a problem with them? Mods I know we have a Leicester thread so I’m not trying to go OT, but I ask the question because it’s a concern I have about this particular player. Can’t say I watched Leicester that closely but Rodgers’ continued (and, to be fair, pretty justified) whining about lack of investment made me want to down tools and I am not even a footballer. If you spend two years complaining the players you have aren’t good enough for what you want to do, at some point they’ll stop playing for you. Hence: manager a prat, and also players downing tools - both can be true. Edited June 7, 2023 by Adam2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zab6359 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Tom13 said: Yeah fair enough...well I've just watched a YT vid of him, as not seen loads of him before. Tbh, he looks to have more to his game than I thought he did. Very tidy player. You probably shouldn't form opinions of players based on YouTube vids they aren't the best marker on how to judge a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Can take a penalty. Give him whatever he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Spanner in the works? Genuine interest, or a final push from the agent to get a bit more out of us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rich192 said: Spanner in the works? Genuine interest, or a final push from the agent to get a bit more out of us? I would guess he will have plenty of offers given you don't have to pay any transfer fee to get him. It will be up to him to choose where he wants to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Rich192 said: Spanner in the works? Genuine interest, or a final push from the agent to get a bit more out of us? If we hold any interest in him he'd join us over Roma so speculation about clubs we can pay more than and are not in financial trouble don't worry me. If he joins them we weren't interested 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, CVByrne said: If we hold any interest in him he'd join us over Roma so speculation about clubs we can pay more than and are not in financial trouble don't worry me. If he joins them we weren't interested If one of the famous European clubs from Rome beats us to signing a top player on a free transfer, that means we weren't interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 7 hours ago, thunderball said: ….but these player threads are where you can debate the merits or otherwise, how it might change the set up/formation, it’s not just about the strength of a rumour. Yeah agreed, don't really get all the commotion over threads being started as long as they're within some kind of reason. It's not like they push extremely busy, more relevant other ones off the page or anything. As you say it creates other conversations too that wouldn't otherwise happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mic09 said: If one of the famous European clubs from Rome beats us to signing a top player on a free transfer, that means we weren't interested? Yes. Villa are a bigger club than Roma, play in the PL and can offer more wages. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, Mic09 said: If one of the famous European clubs from Rome beats us to signing a top player on a free transfer, that means we weren't interested? Are Roma "the famous" European Clubs! Juve, AC Milan and Inter probably the only famous clubs. Roma a tier 2 Italian club like Lazio or Napoli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, duke313 said: Yes. Villa are a bigger club than Roma, play in the PL and can offer more wages. Exactly. Better League. More money and better chance at providing CL football. (Roma are in FFP trouble) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Never has the arrogance of the Premier League been so apparent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Exactly. Better League. More money and better chance at providing CL football. (Roma are in FFP trouble) Roma play regular european football. They are based in Rome. They just played a European final. But that's not the point. The point is there are a million possible reasons why he doesn't necessarily sign for Villa. Such as; 1. He would prefer to move to Italy 2. Roma have put a better offer 3. His partner is interested in Rome 4. He wants to try a different league 5. There is a greater chance for him to start games 6. He is not driven by money but a new adventure etc etc. I am simply disputing your statement that 'if he signs for Roma we were never in for him'. That is not a fact. That is one of the possible reasons. But it's entirely possible a good player on a free transfer chooses a different club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 34 minutes ago, duke313 said: Yes. Villa are a bigger club than Roma. If you were to ask anyone outside of Villa fans they might argue otherwise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I don’t think we are even interested in signing him but if we are, he will almost certainly choose us over Roma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Roma are one of the most famous clubs in Italy. I suspect we were never interested to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Just now, The_Steve said: Roma are one of the most famous clubs in Italy. I suspect we were never interested to begin with. Why do you suspect that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 So yesterday he was signing and now he's not? These player threads are a waste of time... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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