Rds1983 Posted June 25 VT Supporter Share Posted June 25 14 minutes ago, villa89 said: They should do that but in reality the PL want as many rich owners as possible as it brings more of the worlds best players to the league. It appeared at the time that the league (might have been the FA though) weren't keen for Saudi to take over and only got involved once BoJo stepped in. That might just have been the optics they put out though. Bringing it back on topic, it's clear that FFP/PSR needs a review and update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 2 minutes ago, DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth said: Are we the baddies? I think the is the start of the end for PSR, when accountants and clever shuffling of resources and costs take over the sporting aspect you just know the game is up. Teams will be selling accountants next 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Man City = nobody needs to say anything Newcastle = Sponsors are related parties and their deals are on high end Chelsea = Selling hotels to themselves Everton = were bankrolled by Usmanov who was giving inflated sponsorship Big 6 tried to create a breakaway Super League Aston Villa = Sell players before a deadline to avoid PSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I'm not saying we're doing anything wrong, but if another club was doing all these deals, half the people on this forum would be fuming about it True. if it was the big 6 doing this with each other, I’d be pissed right off. Yet, if it was clubs like Everton, Bournemouth, Fulham, Southampton, Leicester. I’d be impressed and think that’s clever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) But, if we’re conspiring with Everton to work around PSR, why do they still need to make sales to meet their requirements? Almost as if they identified a player we were happy to sell and we identified a player to sign respectively. There might be a gentleman’s agreement of sort, but nothing to the levels suggested. These sorts of deals are as old as time in football. Edited June 25 by The_Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Let’s help them out. Surely they have another academy player we could take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 13 minutes ago, duke313 said: Let’s help them out. Surely they have another academy player we could take? They are reportedly spending 18million today on Ndiaye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Zatman said: They are reportedly spending 18million today on Ndiaye Maybe their fine with PSR, and this continued social media push is just to unsettle Branthwaite, as they are desperate for him to sign for United. Or, Ndiaye is an Onana replacement? Edited June 25 by duke313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 11 minutes ago, duke313 said: Maybe their fine with PSR, and this continued social media push is just to unsettle Branthwaite, as they are desperate for him to sign for United. Or, Ndiaye is an Onana replacement? I think Ndiaye is a winger. Was at Sheff United 2 seasons back Also could be Everton still badly managed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 How much book value foes Onana hold? I guess it would be difficult to push through a sale of him in the next few days anyway though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, MrBlack said: How much book value foes Onana hold? I guess it would be difficult to push through a sale of him in the next few days anyway though. Signed for €35m in 2022 on a five year contract, not sure about wages, so 3 years left roughly €21m. They would easily get more than that for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 4 hours ago, duke313 said: Signed for €35m in 2022 on a five year contract, not sure about wages, so 3 years left roughly €21m. They would easily get more than that for him. They would but my point was would it be enough to get them out of their ffp hole. I'm guessing they're pretty well behind where they need to be given they've failed two years in a row... unless it was the year just dropping off that was terrible for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted June 25 VT Supporter Share Posted June 25 The best example of how messed up FFP/PSR is that both Everton and Forest were handed bigger punishments than any of the club's who tried to break away and form the super league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) Manchester United is my guess @Total_Villa BBC Sport knows of at least one club that is so concerned with the recent swap deals involved in the PSR loophole that it intends to raise the matter with the Premier League [@BBCSport] #avfc 1:56 PM · Jun 26, 2024 · 1,947 Views Edited June 26 by Isa 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 15 minutes ago, Isa said: Manchester United is my guess @Total_Villa BBC Sport knows of at least one club that is so concerned with the recent swap deals involved in the PSR loophole that it intends to raise the matter with the Premier League [@BBCSport] #avfc 1:56 PM · Jun 26, 2024 · 1,947 Views I wonder which of the cartel it is? My guess is United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isa Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 If anyone watched the recent Jim Ratcliffe interview with Bloomberg - link here - he basically spends most of it bemoaning that the 'big six' do not have more say over rule changes than the rest of the clubs. He also repeatedly refers to the Premier League as the 'Premiership' and thinks the Premier League is only 15 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 26 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Clubs should file a motion at the next meeting telling the PL to **** off The 20 clubs are the Premier League… so they kind of have to tell themselves as a collective lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Just now, CarryOnVilla said: there’s nothing to worry about. How are they going to prove these transfers were done in bad faith? it’s not like their going to find any texts from monchi saying “go on add another 5m on that, to clear our debts” I would love them to try. They really open themselves up to major pushback. Was Antony market value? All because United couldn’t bully Everton to lower their demands. They also approve every transfer so this is all just hot air and trying to cajole clubs to “know their place”. They can’t prove diddly squat. **** em. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lainux Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 If the Premier League really sent that letter, it's just adding strength to clubs as evidence in court for later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) …..perhaps the Super League isn’t such a bad idea? Or, a brand new format altogether. Edited June 27 by Tayls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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