Sulberto21 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 7 hours ago, viivvaa66 said: I think I read somewhere that teams get a trophy if they win the league. Interesting….. I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa82 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Excellent draw for England in CL. Easy opposition for own teams and many teams from Spain/Italy/Germany who have to play dachs other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 16 minutes ago, villa82 said: Excellent draw for England in CL. Easy opposition for own teams and many teams from Spain/Italy/Germany who have to play dachs other. Some tough draws for the Italian teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JPAngel Posted December 18, 2023 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) I'm back with another chart after the Brentford game and, again, it makes delicious reading. Our points per game average now has us sitting on a projected points total of 85 points when extrapolated. That would be enough, on average, to see us finish 2nd. However, we know that football is rarely that simple. That said, if we were able to match our equivalent performances last season in our remaining fixtures (W10, D3, L8) it would leave us with a total of 71 points and generally be enough for Champions League football. That would include losses against Man Utd, Burnley (replacing Leicester), Fulham, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Palace along with draws against Sheffield Utd (replacing Leeds), West Ham and Wolves. I still think we can do better than the above so who knows where we could end up... Edited December 18, 2023 by JPAngel 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Not the best not the worst CL draw. Lazio should get thumped by Bayern. Hopefully Barcelona have sorted their problems out by time they face Napoli. Inter will have a chance against Atletico. Arsenal and City should get through easily 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpablosaliceband Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 17 hours ago, Pinebro said: Looking at Spurs fixture list it looks very favorable for them Well we are about mid way through the season so shouldn’t everyone’s fixtures be pretty much the same at this point? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanpablosaliceband Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I make it that 11 more wins will be enough for top 4, assuming we draw at least a couple too. If we can get at least two more out of the three games before new year, I think the top 4 job is as good as done. The foundations will have been laid. We would only need 30 points or so from the last 18 games. Interestingly, 5 out of 7 of our games against the other top / big 8 will be at home in the second half of the season, which shouldn’t hurt either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, juanpablosaliceband said: Well we are about mid way through the season so shouldn’t everyone’s fixtures be pretty much the same at this point? Yep. I think april end of march time they ahve a horrendous run of tough games Also they have to go to chelsea utd newcastle liverpool us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 20 hours ago, Pinebro said: Looking at Spurs fixture list it looks very favorable for them How is this possible? They MUST have practically the same games left as everyone else no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Fun article on Opta about being top at Christmas, just in case it happens. In the PL era, only once has a team top at Christmas finished outside the top 4 (and y'all know who that was!) Teams top at Christmas go on to win the title 52% of the time in the PL era (45% all time). https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/12/top-of-the-league-at-christmas-does-it-mean-anything/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted December 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, rubberman said: Fun article on Opta about being top at Christmas, just in case it happens. In the PL era, only once has a team top at Christmas finished outside the top 4 (and y'all know who that was!) Teams top at Christmas go on to win the title 52% of the time in the PL era (45% all time). https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/12/top-of-the-league-at-christmas-does-it-mean-anything/ I'm such a sucker for articles like this! One thing I found interesting is that, if we're top at Christmas and we implode as we did in 1999, we'd still finish above where we finished last season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 On 18/12/2023 at 15:17, Demitri_C said: Yep. I think april end of march time they ahve a horrendous run of tough games Also they have to go to chelsea utd newcastle liverpool us They are also losing some big players to AFCON and Son to the asia cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, rubberman said: Fun article on Opta about being top at Christmas, just in case it happens. In the PL era, only once has a team top at Christmas finished outside the top 4 (and y'all know who that was!) Teams top at Christmas go on to win the title 52% of the time in the PL era (45% all time). https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/12/top-of-the-league-at-christmas-does-it-mean-anything/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Are we invited to the new Super League now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: Are we invited to the new Super League now? No. We are not one of the favoured ones. I bet Newcastle do get invited though, no way would Saudi accept not being part of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 41 minutes ago, Pongo Waring said: Are we invited to the new Super League now? Still not going to happen. After the last aborted launch, all the PL clubs signed up to a clause saying they would be ejected from English football if they take part. Nothing to see here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 On 20/12/2023 at 11:37, JPAngel said: I'm such a sucker for articles like this! One thing I found interesting is that, if we're top at Christmas and we implode as we did in 1999, we'd still finish above where we finished last season Only one team has been top at Christmas and not finished in the Top 4 at end of season in Premier League Era. Aston Villa in 89/99. Can we do it again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 37 minutes ago, rubberman said: Still not going to happen. After the last aborted launch, all the PL clubs signed up to a clause saying they would be ejected from English football if they take part. Nothing to see here... In the national interest to leave things alone and let Premier League become the super league as the gap to the other countries widens. UK government will make sure to keep it like that. What it will mean is there is more clubs say in the European Club game and especially the big leagues. It is a joke that only 6/7 clubs from Premier League qualify for Europe each season there should be 10 or 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Apparently, UEFA are set to abandon the new Champions League format next season, will remain in current format. No 5th place lads, we'll have to secure top 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa82 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, duke313 said: Apparently, UEFA are set to abandon the new Champions League format next season, will remain in current format. No 5th place lads, we'll have to secure top 4 This is not good for us. Not only does fifth place not get CL, but the new format is much fairer for lower ranked teams. We will be in the group with the lowest ranked team, but due to the new format we will not face better opposition than, for example, Real Madrid. But look at the group Newcastle got this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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