Nigel Posted June 13, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 13, 2023 On 11/06/2023 at 19:42, villarule123 said: I kinda want to sign him just to piss the Leicester fans off more. How the mighty have fallen...this time last year we were having our giggles about Arsenal! Purslow out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, duke313 said: Leicester fans seemingly think they will get £50m+ for him? He's not going to cost that much surely? I'd have thought relegation would have halved his fee? That cannot be legit, surely? £50m is big money still. Like top class players, if not world class. Barnes isn't anything like that and never will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaulC Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, duke313 said: Leicester fans seemingly think they will get £50m+ for him? He's not going to cost that much surely? I'd have thought relegation would have halved his fee? Why would relegation half his fee? He scored 13 goals in a relegated team. I'd say his value wouldn't drop at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, duke313 said: Leicester fans seemingly think they will get £50m+ for him? He's not going to cost that much surely? I'd have thought relegation would have halved his fee? The irony is that most the stuff I’ve read is Leicester fans moaning about him. Now they expect £50m? He can’t be as bad they say if they genuinely believe thst valuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 We need some pace in the team.....He has it in abundance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, PaulC said: Why would relegation half his fee? He scored 13 goals in a relegated team. I'd say his value wouldn't drop at all. Because relegated teams don’t generally get to set what fee they’d like, They’re often forced to sell their better players due to wages or the player looking to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, PaulC said: Why would relegation half his fee? He scored 13 goals in a relegated team. I'd say his value wouldn't drop at all. Clubs who are relegated need to find ways to adjust in not receiving c.£120m a season in TV money. The current record purchase from the Championship is £41m for Nathan Ake by Man City. Only three times has a player moved for over £20m (Sissoko from Newcastle to Spurs for £30m and Wijnaldum from Newcastle to Liverpool for £23m in the same season are the other two). There is not a **** chance that Leicester are receiving £50m for Harvey Barnes. Edited June 13, 2023 by bobzy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, TRO said: We need some pace in the team.....He has it in abundance. I agree. Unfortunately unless the manager wants to give himself more options, Barnes also plays in a position we don’t employ. Although as I’ve said before, the reason we haven’t played with a left winger might simply be down to the fact that we don’t have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, bobzy said: Clubs who are relegated need to find ways to adjust in not receiving c.£120m a season in TV money. The current record purchase from the Championship is £41m for Nathan Ake by Man City. Only three times has a player moved for over £20m (Sissoko from Newcastle to Spurs for £30m and Wijnaldum from Newcastle to Liverpool for £23m in the same season are the other two). There is not a **** chance that Leicester are receiving £50m for Harvey Barnes. It will be another one over the 20m threshold though. Probably just over 30m would be my guess based on the insane market we have today. Would like to hope we are searching further afield at other options before paying premiums for players like Harvey Barnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I don't think Leicester are in a great position financially, and relegation will mean they will be even more desperate for money, less in a position to dicate how much money they get for players. The reports suggested that they would have to sell him regardless of whether they stayed up or not, if true it's not as if they can say we don't want to sell him so clubs will have to pay over the odds to get him. It might depend on how many clubs want him, if they can start a bidding war might get more, but I'd guess the fee will be somewhere between twenty and thirty million, maybe a little more, but I'd be surprised if it was anywhere near fifty million, I doubt they would have got that much even if they'd have stayed up. This summer Tielemans, Amartey, Söyüncü, and Mendy all going to leave on free transfers, that's probably fifty million plus worth of players they're losing for nothing, and Maddison only has one year left too, will just have to get want they can within reason, for the players that they can sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, bobzy said: Clubs who are relegated need to find ways to adjust in not receiving c.£120m a season in TV money. The current record purchase from the Championship is £41m for Nathan Ake by Man City. Only three times has a player moved for over £20m (Sissoko from Newcastle to Spurs for £30m and Wijnaldum from Newcastle to Liverpool for £23m in the same season are the other two). There is not a **** chance that Leicester are receiving £50m for Harvey Barnes. Ollie to us. £28m plus £5m add ons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, duke313 said: Because relegated teams don’t generally get to set what fee they’d like, They’re often forced to sell their better players due to wages or the player looking to leave. Depends on how many clubs are in for him. If reports are correct that both Newcastje and West Ham are interested that could make a bidding war. If Newcastle paid 45 mil for Anthony Gordon than Barnes is worth more than that imo Edited June 13, 2023 by PaulC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, PaulC said: Why would relegation half his fee? He scored 13 goals in a relegated team. I'd say his value wouldn't drop at all. The selling club are usually anxious to reduce the wages bill before the parachute payments dry up. Plus players show little loyalty and want a quick route back to the promised land. I read that in the Daniel Levy book of negotiations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, PaulC said: Depends on how many clubs are in for him. If reports are correct that both Newcastje and West Ham are interested that could make a bidding war. If Newcastle paid 45 mil for Anthony Gordon than Barnes is worth more than that imo Just because Newcastle spent an obscene amount on a very mediocre player doesn’t mean we should follow suit. I don’t think anyone knows why they bought him for that fee, he really isn’t that good. As for Barnes, £50m is still a huge transfer, would be a club record for well over half the teams in the league and by a long margin for most of them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 18 minutes ago, stewiek2 said: Ollie to us. £28m plus £5m add ons Looked at a wrong thing to be fair - plenty over £20m (well, looks like about 15 players but yeah) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Just now, david-avfc said: Just because Newcastle spent an obscene amount on a very mediocre player doesn’t mean we should follow suit. I don’t think anyone knows why they bought him for that fee, he really isn’t that good. As for Barnes, £50m is still a huge transfer, would be a club record for well over half the teams in the league and by a long margin for most of them too. Yes I agree we shouldn't pay that for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, PaulC said: Depends on how many clubs are in for him. If reports are correct that both Newcastje and West Ham are interested that could make a bidding war. If Newcastle paid 45 mil for Anthony Gordon than Barnes is worth more than that imo Doubt teams will go that high, he’s good but he’s not that good. £20-25m + add-ons is probably the best they’ll get. If they wanted more they shouldn’t have got relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 id predict 30-40m. We paid that for Buendia and Watkins, seems like others would. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 43 minutes ago, cheltenham_villa said: id predict 30-40m. We paid that for Buendia and Watkins, seems like others would. Spot on. Southampton want £50m for JWP as well, that isn't going to happen either. I suspect both will go for nearer £40m than £50m. Championship clubs can't always get what they want (now that Brentford aren't among them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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