Captain_Townsend Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 2 minutes ago, S-Platt said: They need a Facilities Manager it's not rocket science or an expensive position to fill. If they just use subbies to do all the odd jobs that person co-ordinaties it. He/she should be monitoring fans complaints and going round checking things. I could do that even find the sparkies/plumbers/painters and so on that are needed. They will have used all those type of subbies on the various refits in corporate it's not rocket science to find the good ones and give them the other jobs around the ground. Agree. Great proactive suggestion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, Captain_Townsend said: Agree. Great proactive suggestion. I'll do it for my current wage FFS. Unacceptable as it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDR V2 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 minutes ago, S-Platt said: They need a Facilities Manager it's not rocket science or an expensive position to fill. If they just use subbies to do all the odd jobs that person co-ordinaties it. He/she should be monitoring fans complaints and going round checking things. I could do that even find the sparkies/plumbers/painters and so on that are needed. They will have used all those type of subbies on the various refits in corporate it's not rocket science to find the good ones and give them the other jobs around the ground. Surely they have a Facilities Manager, with all the works going on. Who is coordinating and organising them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Captain_Townsend said: Agree. Great proactive suggestion. I just checked and apparently we have one. Daniel Tansley - Facilities Manager - Training Ground - Aston Villa Football Club | LinkedIn. Edit. Apologies just realised this says Training ground!! Edited August 27 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Just now, TDR V2 said: Surely they have a Facilities Manager, with all the works going on. Who is coordinating and organising them. They must have people doing these roles. What I question is, what I posed earlier is the PPM maintenance carried out? It's very poorly managed, if it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDR V2 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I just checked and apparently we have one. Daniel Tansley - Facilities Manager - Training Ground - Aston Villa Football Club | LinkedIn. He's probably just responsible for Bodymoor Heath then, can't have the players walking in pee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Just now, TDR V2 said: He's probably just responsible for Bodymoor Heath then, can't have the players walking in pee Yeah I just edited post as I overlooked the Training ground bit. Would be quite strange for us not to have one though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 They need someone to oversee what subcontracted and internally delivered tasks are completed and hold them to account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDR V2 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 minute ago, Hank Scorpio said: They need someone to oversee what subcontracted and internally delivered tasks are completed and hold them to account. Tweet Mr Heck and offer your assistance, he can only block you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Just now, TDR V2 said: Tweet Mr Heck and offer your assistance, he can only block you He will when he sees my wage demands! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 27 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27 2 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: The problem here isn't whether or not Chris Heck is right to block someone on the basis of their criticism - I haven't seen the tweet that got this person blocked and it could have been vile, personal, insulting and all of those other things that twitter somehow breeds, and I believe Chris Heck should have the absolute right not to have to suffer that on his personal Twitter account. The problem here is that this is Chris Heck's personal twitter account and he has blurred the lines by using it as an official channel for communicating club information - that's unprofessional and inappropriate - the club have a number of their own channels with which to communicate things but Mr Heck likes to use his personal twitter to do that instead. Tt means he gets the scoop, he gets the exclusive, he gets the likes and the follows - it becomes about the brand "Chris Heck" rather than the brand "Aston Villa", but it also means he's going to get the brickbats that come with those bouquets. If you want to use your personal account for the business of the club you're going to get the complaints that should be aimed at the club when things go wrong. If you want to be Napoleon, people are going to fire cannons at you. If Chris Heck wasn't Chris Heck, Chris Heck would fire Chris Heck for the way that Chris Heck uses twitter. funny that this was one of the common criticisms for purslow...and heck seems to be far worse for it. at least purslow did everything via official mediums i did have a look through that twitter account as my first thought was that there must be more to the story for him to block him, but i couldn't find anything abusive or personal directed towards heck (fair bit of far right crap though and him generally being a bit of a clearing in the woods...maybe there's nothing more to it than heck blocking another arsehole on twitter) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepal_villan Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Heck just needs to hire 247 Services to sort it all out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 The training ground bloke can't catch a train to Villa Park a week before it opens and give it the once over? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MapleVilla Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 To be fair the job at the training ground is probably alot of work. If it's not too bad the one at Villa Park will be much bigger. I'd have thought we have someone over looking this sort of thing. We definitely should with the size of our club. BUT it's possible that we're a little behind especially when you think the upper trinity was closed not so long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delboy54 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 I would have thought a facilities manager could easily overse both Villa Park and and a training facility. VP is a large outdoor arena home to over 40000 paying spectators with all the infrastructure that goes with it. Whoever is the manager behind all this does not appear to be doing a good job to be honest. Problems existing last season have still not been addressed. Perhaps the emphasis is on how padded the seats are in corporate, making sure the cutlery is in the correct order and the wine list has no typos. While the rest of us wade in piss, queue and have no seat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) Hospitals, schools, courts, power stations, police buildings, laboratories, office blocks, supermarkets etc.. all have facilities management plans. My employer has some pretty big FM contracts. To manage the facilities at Villa Park would be a great little contract for a firm. Soft services such as cleaning, pest control, security and hard services like the plumbing, electrics, hvac, building works etc… it just needs someone to take control of it and manage. As far as I know this has never been set up as a contract to bid for. It’s amateur stuff really. Edited August 27 by It's Your Round 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 1 hour ago, nepal_villan said: Heck just needs to hire 247 Services to sort it all out. Ok Pete Good shout though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 3 hours ago, TDR V2 said: Tweet Mr Heck and offer your assistance, he can only block you Lol were you one of the many people who had been blocked for expressing your frustration? Edited August 27 by Aston_Villan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 (edited) 46 minutes ago, It's Your Round said: Hospitals, schools, courts, power stations, police buildings, laboratories, office blocks, supermarkets etc.. all have facilities management plans. My employer has some pretty big FM contracts. To manage the facilities at Villa Park would be a great little contract for a firm. Soft services such as cleaning, pest control, security and hard services like the plumbing, electrics, hvac, building works etc… it just needs someone to take control of it and manage. As far as I know this has never been set up as a contract to bid for. It’s amateur stuff really. Yes or if they don’t want to outsource just have a Facilities Manager who sorts it. All they have to do is identify issues and hire the best sub-contractors, not do the work themselves. We have a FM at work, they look after 20+ office buildings. It’s not that hard a job to do and all our offices are always in great shape with any issues sorted promptly. Has Heck not even thought about having someone in this position? Edited August 27 by ender4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 'he's taking the piss, he's taking the pissssss Chris Heck he's taking the piss' needs to be sung at the next home game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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