lexicon Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 11 hours ago, foreveryoung said: Turned down Man U to come here, is the rumour with Barca fans too. While that sounds a little surprising, given the absolute basket case Man Utd is behind the scenes, that doesn't shock me all that much. They're not a modern club at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, lexicon said: While that sounds a little surprising, given the absolute basket case Man Utd is behind the scenes, that doesn't shock me all that much. They're not a modern club at all. You would get a huge amount of credit and a new challenge taking a team like Villa to being a top 4 side surely. I think he's after the challenge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 11 hours ago, foreveryoung said: Turned down Man U to come here, is the rumour with Barca fans too. If that is true then NSWE are really selling a project. Which makes me more excited as it becomes even clearer that he (and Emery and Heck) aren't signing because we are paying them more than anyone else but that we've sold them a vision and that it is the vision that has motivated them to join us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 The owner situation at Manure might also play in. They are actively for sale and who know when it will happen, who the owners will be and what they have planned. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, sne said: The owner situation at Manure might also play in. They are actively for sale and who know when it will happen, who the owners will be and what they have planned. I assume that one of the bidding parties must have approached him (if he really has been approached and turned them down) because you can't see why the existing owners would be appointing a DOF in the midst of trying the sell the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, allani said: I assume that one of the bidding parties must have approached him (if he really has been approached and turned them down) because you can't see why the existing owners would be appointing a DOF in the midst of trying the sell the club. Maybe. Or it could just be a bs made up rumor. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, CVByrne said: You would get a huge amount of credit and a new challenge taking a team like Villa to being a top 4 side surely. I think he's after the challenge Yeah, true. Plus, being at Barca, he's worked at a club as prestigious as Man Utd before and probably realises that the name means nothing, it's all about the structures in place and the influence you can have personally. Greater control, better foundations and a comparable/better paycheck sounds like a big win for him already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post allani Posted May 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2023 Also one other thing that has struck me with regard to both Emery and Alemany - is that they have both transformed clubs just below the top tier very successfully. Then gone onto an "elite" club and it feels like they just haven't enjoyed themselves as much. Emery didn't seem to like his time as PSG and Alemany is clearly frustrated that his role is constantly being undermined by a President interferring and trying to sign his own players rather than letting the DOF get on with his job. In that respect, assuming that the Villa project does come good, it seems far less likely that either would walk away the first time a "big" club approaches them. They've both kind of been there, done that and been stung by it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allani Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, lexicon said: Yeah, true. Plus, being at Barca, he's worked at a club as prestigious as Man Utd before and probably realises that the name means nothing, it's all about the structures in place and the influence you can have personally. Greater control, better foundations and a comparable/better paycheck sounds like a big win for him already. More to the point - I get the impression that the vision / legacy becomes much more motivating than money. Giving people a payrise tends to have a very time limited impact on their morale / happiness. Making people feel like their role is critical to the success of the business prolongs the morale / happiness factor (as long as you aren't taking the **** and paying them well below their value). If we start realising the vision then it will become much more difficult for another club to come up with a package (money + project) that would tempt them away. Which kind of ties in with everything that NSWE / Purslow have talked about in terms of finding a new way to compete with the Sly 6 and the "state owned" clubs. We can't outspend them so the way to compete is to be better than them in every other regard. Be better at exploiting other revenue streams, be better at finding elite players earlier, be better at coaching, be better at being the mouthpiece against the status quo (domestically and within Europe), etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) On 06/05/2023 at 11:27, wishywashy said: https://www.football-espana.net/2022/07/20/the-man-behind-barcelonas-negotiations-mateu-alemany sound like a slick " Poker player" Negotiation, is an art, you are right....and done well, requires a bunch of intelligence and articulation. Seems like we have another implement, in the Aston Villa toolbox. The incremental progress is staggering.....These owners seem to know, exactly when to strengthen and restructure....and intent on top quality execs. Edited May 14, 2023 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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STO Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Not a denial then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) Robbed from Misha again: " Barcelona vice president Eduard Romeu asked about Alemany leaving: “Mateu Alemany couldn’t say no. Aston Villa put an astronomical salary on the table & on top of that, they give you a blank cheque book & it’s very hard to say no. Mateu is a phenomenon, he’s done a great job.” " Bloody hell they make the man sound like the Messi of Football Directors for real. Lol https://www.facebook.com/groups/131653430526891/permalink/1942565899435626/?mibextid=Nif5oz Blank Cheque Edited May 15, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Well if we're after Lo Celso then we'll know how good this guy is pitted against that skinflint Levy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 13 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Robbed from Misha again: " Barcelona vice president Eduard Romeu asked about Alemany leaving: “Mateu Alemany couldn’t say no. Aston Villa put an astronomical salary on the table & on top of that, they give you a blank cheque book & it’s very hard to say no. Mateu is a phenomenon, he’s done a great job.” " Bloody hell they make the man sound like the Messi of Football Directors for real. Lol https://www.facebook.com/groups/131653430526891/permalink/1942565899435626/?mibextid=Nif5oz Blank Cheque Blank cheque ? Does that mean that he is ging to work for us for free ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Little bits about him through the video. I like the fact he really didnt want to bring Messi back and wanted to make the squad a bit more dynamic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 9 hours ago, Zatman said: Little bits about him through the video. I like the fact he really didnt want to bring Messi back and wanted to make the squad a bit more dynamic I don't want to say it's outright disrespectful, but the kinds of questions the two English guys kept asking the Spaniard about Alemany coming to Villa were slight digs at the club. Implying Villa are a "simpler" project than Barcelona made it sound like Alemany was running away from the "challenge of an elite club". Also the whole "players don't care about behind the scenes stuff and don't want to go to a club like Villa over a club like Barcelona" makes it sound like Alemany is going to only try to complete directly with Barcelona for every signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Reports in Spain are suggesting he’s staying with Barca now lol. My translate is not working sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakagom Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Never rated him anyway tbh, Ferran Torres for 60mn must have got NSWE suspicious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 What is happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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