Keyblade Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 He's not very good on the ball. Or, not good enough for the top teams I should say. Positionally he's really good, and can tackle well, but you'd want a bit more than that for 80-90 mil you'd think. Look at Kamara, or even Luiz. They must be worth 150m then going by that because Kamara in particular is just way better at pretty much everything you'd want in that position. If teams like Arsenal and Chelsea are paying that much it's a good thing for teams like us and Brighton, with the caveat being that we need to continue making good signings ourselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: He's not very good on the ball. Or, not good enough for the top teams I should say. Positionally he's really good, and can tackle well, but you'd want a bit more than that for 80-90 mil you'd think. Look at Kamara, or even Luiz. They must be worth 150m then going by that because Kamara in particular is just way better at pretty much everything you'd want in that position. If teams like Arsenal and Chelsea are paying that much it's a good thing for teams like us and Brighton, with the caveat being that we need to continue making good signings ourselves. Only if they were called Bobby Kameron and Doug Lewis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Keyblade said: He's not very good on the ball. Or, not good enough for the top teams I should say. Positionally he's really good, and can tackle well, but you'd want a bit more than that for 80-90 mil you'd think. Look at Kamara, or even Luiz. They must be worth 150m then going by that because Kamara in particular is just way better at pretty much everything you'd want in that position. If teams like Arsenal and Chelsea are paying that much it's a good thing for teams like us and Brighton, with the caveat being that we need to continue making good signings ourselves. Yep, it's hard to imagine arsenal failed to get Luiz last summer so they go for rice this summer They play the role completely differently Not saying rice isn't good at what he does or isn't a good player I just don't think top teams and top managers play with that kind of old fashioned holding midfielder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: Palace are a good transfer window away from being a threat for European places. Well they're losing Zaha so one injury to Eze and they'll be really struggling for creativity again. And the CF options remain mediocre so think they'll just have the same season they seemingly had for llast decade. Interesting Sullivan mentioned replacing Rice with a few players and we all know the dangers of that transfer model although sometimes all you can do. I'd be amazed if Ward Prowse and Conor Gallagher aren't playing for West Ham by September 1st. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikeyp102 Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2023 Southampton apparently want £52m for ward Prowse 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) £92m for Rice and £52m for Ward-Prowse. I know English players come with a tax but it’s honestly silly season. Edited June 9, 2023 by The_Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 Whats the general consensus on here regarding Rice versus Kamara. Personally I think he is a really good player but I wouldnt take Rice over Bouba. Yet there is a £92m gap in transfer fee. Bonkers stuff really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, TheMelvillan said: Whats the general consensus on here regarding Rice versus Kamara. Personally I think he is a really good player but I wouldnt take Rice over Bouba. Yet there is a £92m gap in transfer fee. Bonkers stuff really To be fair if we were to sell Kamara now we'd be looking for £60-70m (I hope he stays here for many years). Rice has a higher reputation, not necessarily being a better player. There isn't a 92m gap in the fee - we just got him for free, a player usually does that to finish a contract and receive a higher wage/sign on bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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villa4europe Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, TheMelvillan said: Whats the general consensus on here regarding Rice versus Kamara. Personally I think he is a really good player but I wouldnt take Rice over Bouba. Yet there is a £92m gap in transfer fee. Bonkers stuff really Rice is better at breaking up play Boubs is better on the ball I might be wrong here but to me rice looks like someone who started out at CB and then moved forward, modern DMCs like Boubs, Luiz and especially Rodri who is best one in the league look like midfielders who have dropped back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, The_Steve said: £92m for Rice and £52m for Ward-Prowse. I know English players come with a tax but it’s honestly silly season. Club are entitled to charge what they want for their better players, if the buyer don't like it they can look elsewhere. Edited June 9, 2023 by Wainy316 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Wainy316 said: Club are entitled to charge what they want for their better players, if the buyer don't like it they can look elsewhere. Surprised there's not been more free agents already, was expecting tge trend to be like you say resulting in more free transfers because clubs won't sell for sensible prices because they don't have to Instead clubs just pay the daft prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 10, 2023 Share Posted June 10, 2023 Brahim Diaz returning to Real Madrid from AC Milan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Apparently Al-Hilal want the wolves manager. MIND THE GAP INTENSIFIES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Apparently Liverpool want to add JWP as well as MacAllister, to their summer spending but are willing to play a waiting game with Southampton, because they want £50m. Money is so tight up there isn't it? Hopefully someone will beat them to the signing, they don't like paying the fee for the players they want do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 Liverplop are supposed to be leading the chase for Khephren Thuram as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, John said: Apparently Liverpool want to add JWP as well as MacAllister, to their summer spending but are willing to play a waiting game with Southampton, because they want £50m. Money is so tight up there isn't it? Hopefully someone will beat them to the signing, they don't like paying the fee for the players they want do they? That's how they operate, they'll now sit back for a few weeks while the media cook up stories of how Southampton are unfairly denying him of a dream move and the general consensus will be he's over valued (he is to be fair) putting pressure on Southampton to reduce their asking price 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rds1983 Posted June 11, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 11, 2023 2 hours ago, villa4europe said: That's how they operate, they'll now sit back for a few weeks while the media cook up stories of how Southampton are unfairly denying him of a dream move and the general consensus will be he's over valued (he is to be fair) putting pressure on Southampton to reduce their asking price Heard for year's from people who have worked closely with the club that the owners are incredibly stingy and profit orientated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 3 hours ago, John said: Apparently Liverpool want to add JWP as well as MacAllister, to their summer spending but are willing to play a waiting game with Southampton, because they want £50m. Money is so tight up there isn't it? Hopefully someone will beat them to the signing, they don't like paying the fee for the players they want do they? According to the fans they are still spending the Coutinho money as well 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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