duke313 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, villa4europe said: But if arsenal win all their remaining matches then they win the league It sounds to me like he's adding a bit of spin to to and increase the doom which increases the pressure and the drama Maybe I'm just anti - PL product and what carragher said to me is worlds most exciting league scream drama in your face bullshit I think they are assuming that City probably will win all their matches, including the Arsenal one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2023 (edited) The first thing I said (I think) was it’s in both teams’ hands. It’s in arsenal’s hands to win every match and it’s in Man City’s hand’s to win every match and score sufficient goals and it’s in Arsenal’s hands to win every match except lose to City and yet still score sufficient goals. It being in both teams’ hands is a perfectly plausible scenario when those teams are yet to play one another. It is the current scenario. Edited April 9, 2023 by fightoffyour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, duke313 said: I think they are assuming that City probably will win all their matches, including the Arsenal one In the commentary Carragher (I presume) assumed a counterfactual. I don't think he had any specific objective in mind other than to point out that things were a little closer than they might at first seem. counterfactual ... A counterfactual thought occurs when a person modifies a factual prior event and then assesses the consequences of that change. OK I'm done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Genie said: So if the players speak to the officials it’s ok to elbow them in the throat? I would not be against this rule being added to football 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted April 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: But if arsenal win all their remaining matches then they win the league It sounds to me like he's adding a bit of spin to to and increase the doom which increases the pressure and the drama Maybe I'm just anti - PL product and what carragher said to me is worlds most exciting league scream drama in your face bullshit Can we agree to disagree the real winner here is football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Can we agree to disagree the real winner here is football? No 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Not a fan of them but fair play to Liverpool gave it a big effort in the 2nd half while Arsenal looked timid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted April 10, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, VillaJ100 said: Not a fan of them but fair play to Liverpool gave it a big effort in the 2nd half while Arsenal looked timid. I'm only going off the small amount I paid attention in this match - but rather than timid, I thought they were frantic. Whenever they finally got the ball back off Liverpool in their own half they treated it as a transition and immediately pumped the ball forward.... ... even when it was Martinelli or Saka vs 3 defenders. They squandered so much. I noted how little in control of the game Arsenal were compared to how we were against Forest. Different clubs, different grounds, different abilities yes - but no less headless than we were in possession under our former manager. Emery really is a cut above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 5 hours ago, ozvillafan said: I'm only going off the small amount I paid attention in this match - but rather than timid, I thought they were frantic. Whenever they finally got the ball back off Liverpool in their own half they treated it as a transition and immediately pumped the ball forward.... ... even when it was Martinelli or Saka vs 3 defenders. They squandered so much. I noted how little in control of the game Arsenal were compared to how we were against Forest. Different clubs, different grounds, different abilities yes - but no less headless than we were in possession under our former manager. Emery really is a cut above Obviously I think Unai is amazing but ultimately we lost against Arsenal (who will have been controlling games all season) and haven’t yet played at Anfield this season. We’ve made some massive improvements but I think we might be brought back down to earth with a bump soon. We were actually pretty poor on Saturday which I’m putting down to the same 11 playing their 3rd game in a week and were lucky we were not playing a better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 It’s the big showdown in the National League today, Wrexham vs Notts County, 3pm on BT sport for anyone interested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 1 minute ago, bannedfromHandV said: It’s the big showdown in the National League today, Wrexham vs Notts County, 3pm on BT sport for anyone interested. One of those is finishing 2nd on 100 + points. Imagine that happening and then losing in the play offs. All the hype on Wrexham but I hope Notts County go up, Meadow Lane was a very nice away trip when I went there one year to watch Walsall on an FA cup weekend (Walsall won 5-1) and it's a traditional club that should never have gone down to non league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 2 hours ago, WallisFrizz said: Obviously I think Unai is amazing but ultimately we lost against Arsenal (who will have been controlling games all season) and haven’t yet played at Anfield this season. We’ve made some massive improvements but I think we might be brought back down to earth with a bump soon. We were actually pretty poor on Saturday which I’m putting down to the same 11 playing their 3rd game in a week and were lucky we were not playing a better team. We've been average in more than just one game but as Newcastle to a slightly longer extent are finding out as well winning is a habit that I'm glad we've got! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Qpr are screwed. 2 nil down already . Zero fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 What's happened with Anthony Gordon? Just seen a Twitter post from Newcastle that he's basically been banished from the first team for the rest of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HongKongVillan Posted April 10, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: What's happened with Anthony Gordon? Just seen a Twitter post from Newcastle that he's basically been banished from the first team for the rest of the season. Was listening to the Grauniad podcast which they spent 5 secs on villa, but sorry , anyway apparently he pushed Howe and co when he got subbed last game Vs Brentford . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted April 10, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: What's happened with Anthony Gordon? Just seen a Twitter post from Newcastle that he's basically been banished from the first team for the rest of the season. I think that tweet is fake. But he basically threw a paddy when he got subbed off on the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: What's happened with Anthony Gordon? Just seen a Twitter post from Newcastle that he's basically been banished from the first team for the rest of the season. The signs were there he was a bad egg before they signed him. They paid way too much too. Well done Geordies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted April 10, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 10, 2023 I’d be very very surprised if he’s been frozen out for that, but independently he’s an absolute word removed of the highest order. Kicked off to force a move at his boyhood club after barely doing anything then moaned that they hurt his feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Gwarn KewPeeAh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Saw PL FB post with smiling Pep and City run in. Say they win the title how long before they get stripped of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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