Genie Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: This is a false dichotomy though Nobody wants the fastest possible decision at any cost to accuracy, and nobody wants the correct decision absolutely no matter how long it takes - we don't want to to sit there for 20 minutes, for example There's a compromise to be had between accuracy vs time, the problem is everyone will have their own feeling for what a reasonable time is to reach the right conclusion. My gut feel is if you can't tell within a few seconds after seeing from a couple of angles, play on with the on field decision. Or admit that VAR takes more away from the sport than it gives and scrap it as a failed experiment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 The cat is out of the bag on that one mate. People got what they wanted and it’s here to stay. Next up on the wish list is all the people who suddenly neeeeeeeed a stop clock and a 60 minute game because time wasting or something. We are sleepwalking into the NFL-ification of football. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, The_Rev said: The cat is out of the bag on that one mate. People got what they wanted and it’s here to stay. Next up on the wish list is all the people who suddenly neeeeeeeed a stop clock and a 60 minute game because time wasting or something. We are sleepwalking into the NFL-ification of football. And what does the NFL have every 2 minutes that football only has every 45? Surrpised they haven't sold the naming rights for VAR yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Exactly. And I’m sure they will sell them at some point. They probably intended to sell them all along, but right now VAR is so unpopular that there can’t be many brands wanting to be associated with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frodo Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Think we're linked with this guy for a summer move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 The absolute audacity to try that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Nayim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, The_Rev said: Nayim. He could lob Seaman from 50 yards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) Arsenal now playing Extra Time Edited March 16, 2023 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Great goal made even better by seeing Ramsdale looking disconsolate in his own net. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, theboyangel said: He could lob Seaman from 50 yards! That’s nothing. Seaman could launch it Overmars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Biased but watching this penalty shoot out with Arsenal and Sporting, I feel Emi would have saved at least one of the Sporting efforts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Biased but watching this penalty shoot out with Arsenal and Sporting, I feel Emi would have saved at least one of the Sporting efforts. A lot of them looked saveable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Well done, Sporting! And what a **** goal by Goncalves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 9 hours ago, The_Rev said: Next up on the wish list is all the people who suddenly neeeeeeeed a stop clock and a 60 minute game because time wasting or something. We are sleepwalking into the NFL-ification of football. It’s the absolute correct move IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 7 hours ago, bobzy said: It’s the absolute correct move IMO. The correct move would be to make the refs enforce the rules that they already have and apply some common sense But they won't Give it 5 years and they'll come up with some mind blowingly complicated game ruining idea to stop throw in takers creeping 20 yards up the touch line rather than just making the ref enforce the already existing rule 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Tbh I’ve never understood why you can’t have a separate timekeeper besides the ref, who just pauses the clock every time the ball goes dead. Would completely get rid of time wasting on goal kicks, throw ins, free kicks, etc and would get rid of all the Fergie time bullshit as well. It’s the time outs, team changes, quarters, half time shows, etc that make US sport so stop-start. Just getting the clock right wouldn’t change football, besides making it fairer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 57 minutes ago, KentVillan said: Tbh I’ve never understood why you can’t have a separate timekeeper besides the ref, who just pauses the clock every time the ball goes dead. Would completely get rid of time wasting on goal kicks, throw ins, free kicks, etc and would get rid of all the Fergie time bullshit as well. It’s the time outs, team changes, quarters, half time shows, etc that make US sport so stop-start. Just getting the clock right wouldn’t change football, besides making it fairer. Wouldn't be difficult. Allow a specific amount of time for a goal kick, throw in, free kick, etc. Once the player pissing about goes beyond it you start counting and add it on. Even subs, goal celebrations, injuries, could have dedicated (expected) time allowance, that once its exceeded you start adding time to the end. Prevents.. Players faking injury to waste time, excessively long goal celebrations, slow pitch exits from a sub, and the obvious delays from dead ball restarts. Wouldn't surprise me if that's what was happening at the world cup. Or if they added a set amount of time for each event that occurred. And then once the players realised the delay tactics weren't particularly helpful and just prolonged the game,we saw the added time come back down slightly. Wouldn't stop the Martinez style delays that are just to give the team a breather and a chance to reset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 hour ago, villa4europe said: The correct move would be to make the refs enforce the rules that they already have and apply some common sense But they won't Give it 5 years and they'll come up with some mind blowingly complicated game ruining idea to stop throw in takers creeping 20 yards up the touch line rather than just making the ref enforce the already existing rule Nah, it's still subjective then. 60 minute games with the clock stopping is the way forward - removes any referee variance. It's a factual amount of added on time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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