sidcow Posted February 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2023 So according to the poll "you play like a girl" is not offensive. Wow, VT takes a step back into the 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2023 The sooner people remember that being offended is a personal choice and that no-one has the right not to be offended the better. Some people act like being offended is a crime. In a free country it isn't because if it was, it wouldn't be a free country In the real world, if I'm offended by something or someone. I avoid that Words removed like shitbrexitpubchain bloke offend me, I choose not to give him any money. Tories offend me, I choose not to vote for them If being offended was wrong, there would be very few stand-up comedians with a gig Just remember being offended is a personal choice 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Woods should have been savvy/smart enough not to make the joke in front of cameras. Should have saved it for the locker room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, sidcow said: So according to the poll "you play like a girl" is not offensive. Wow, VT takes a step back into the 70s. you have watched women's sport haven't you ? ( yeah someone had to do it ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2023 2 hours ago, bickster said: The sooner people remember that being offended is a personal choice and that no-one has the right not to be offended the better. Some people act like being offended is a crime. In a free country it isn't because if it was, it wouldn't be a free country In the real world, if I'm offended by something or someone. I avoid that Words removed like shitbrexitpubchain bloke offend me, I choose not to give him any money. Tories offend me, I choose not to vote for them If being offended was wrong, there would be very few stand-up comedians with a gig Just remember being offended is a personal choice I mean, better shut the thread down then because the discussion and poll is really about if it's acceptable or offensive. I don't think anyone is saying a crime has been committed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted February 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2023 Who cares, like really find something actually important in the world to worry about. It was a joke between mates and if your offended close your eyes and cuddle yourself to sleep. And I'm a lefty apparently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 3 hours ago, bickster said: Just remember being offended is a personal choice At the same time, I think it's important to remember that being offensive is often also a personal choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 20, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 20, 2023 Am I the only one wanting The Kings take on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 20, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: At the same time, I think it's important to remember that being offensive is often also a personal choice You can't be in control of what other people find offensive Attempting to be offensive yes, being offensive, no not at all that isn't a personal choice its someone else's choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted February 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 21, 2023 8 hours ago, bickster said: You can't be in control of what other people find offensive Attempting to be offensive yes, being offensive, no not at all that isn't a personal choice its someone else's choice. 1980 or so, someone asks Paul “Bear” Bryant, legendary (American) football coach of the University of Alabama, what he would do if he had someone like Earl Campbell on his team and he says, “I’d give the ball to my n****r and tell him to run” (paraphrased). Are you suggesting the only thing wrong there is that a few million African Americans decided to be offended? That’s one for the unpopular opinions thread, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 21, 2023 Moderator Share Posted February 21, 2023 52 minutes ago, il_serpente said: 1980 or so, someone asks Paul “Bear” Bryant, legendary (American) football coach of the University of Alabama, what he would do if he had someone like Earl Campbell on his team and he says, “I’d give the ball to my n****r and tell him to run” (paraphrased). Are you suggesting the only thing wrong there is that a few million African Americans decided to be offended? That’s one for the unpopular opinions thread, I think. Who said being offended was wrong? There are clearly some topics that it’s right to be offended by. But it is still a choice, it’s not an involuntary action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, bickster said: Who said being offended was wrong? There are clearly some topics that it’s right to be offended by. But it is still a choice, it’s not an involuntary action. It’s an emotional response, of course it’s involuntary. Whether you choose to swallow that offence or speak up about it is where the choice lies. Edited February 21, 2023 by LondonLax 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
il_serpente Posted February 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, bickster said: Who said being offended was wrong? There are clearly some topics that it’s right to be offended by. But it is still a choice, it’s not an involuntary action. So those millions of black people were only offended after taking a few moments to think about it and deciding that they were going to be offended, nothing visceral about it…. 13 hours ago, bickster said: The sooner people remember that being offended is a personal choice and that no-one has the right not to be offended the better. Some people act like being offended is a crime. In a free country it isn't because if it was, it wouldn't be a free country In the real world, if I'm offended by something or someone. I avoid that Words removed like shitbrexitpubchain bloke offend me, I choose not to give him any money. Tories offend me, I choose not to vote for them If being offended was wrong, there would be very few stand-up comedians with a gig Just remember being offended is a personal choice and the logical response to Bryant’s racism was just for African Americans to suddenly start avoiding a sport/team that had a huge part in the regional culture, I guess. I think I’ve got it now. Like I said, unpopular opinion. Edited February 21, 2023 by il_serpente . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 minute ago, il_serpente said: So those millions of black people were only offended after taking a few moments to think about it and deciding that they were going to be offended, nothing visceral about it…. and the logical response to Bryant’s racism was just for African Americans to suddenly start avoiding a sport/team that had a huge part in the regional culture, I guess. I think I’ve got it now. Like I said, unpopular opinion. No no, you’ve got it wrong. You see there are some things that are acceptable to be offended by and some things that are not. The ideas that are reasonable to be offended by just coincidentally happen to be the things the person being offensive would also find offensive, as they are the arbiters. Anyone else being offended is just choosing to do it in order to be a nuisance. See simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 William S Burroughs: Quote Words of advice for young people If, after having been exposed to someone's presenceYou feel as if you've lost a quart of plasmaAvoid that presenceYou need it like you need pernicious anemia This is what most people do, they clock the offender and they avoid. Then, years later Yorkshire Cricket Club, or whoever, can’t understand why there are only whites blokes on the team when there’s such a lively bantz culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: William S Burroughs: This is what most people do, they clock the offender and they avoid. Then, years later Yorkshire Cricket Club, or whoever, can’t understand why there are only whites blokes on the team when there’s such a lively bantz culture. Or why no women stick around on Villatalk for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 12 hours ago, LondonLax said: It’s an emotional response, of course it’s involuntary. Whether you choose to swallow that offence or speak up about it is where the choice lies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted February 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 21, 2023 38 minutes ago, Brumstopdogs said: Great Kenneth. Where do you get that you dirty old @Brumstopdogs you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, sidcow said: Great Kenneth. Where do you get that you dirty old @Brumstopdogs you? Just on google images - makes you wonder how many Kenneth gifs have ended up on VT! Back on topic thought it was naive of Tiger Woods as he must have known the cameras would pick up on it unless he thought everyone would just laugh... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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