nick76 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, imavillan said: not every foul leading to a pen is a yellow I agree with that but in this case if he thought that was a foul then it was a yellow card because it contact after the ball left the player ie late tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, DJBOB said: Reminds of the Gabby penalty vs Arsenal we got. i think same rule applies but it is iffy. Say for example he had gone for a pass instead of a shot and the keeper clattered him, I’d say that’s still a penalty. I thought that too The difference there would be that the keeper took gabby out and then weimann missed the shot afterwards, if the keeper didn't take gabby out gabby would score With this tonight I'm convinced nothing changes, contact or no contact it plays out exactly the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, maqroll said: Not sure that having a scoring chance or not actually matters here. If that was any other City player and it was outside the box, it's a clear foul. So why isn't it a foul in the box? I think it's a coming together, not a foul. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: I think it's a coming together, not a foul. The replay clearly shows Ederson leaving both feet and jumping into him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, maqroll said: The replay clearly shows Ederson leaving both feet and jumping into him. Then it should have been a second yellow. Ball was gone anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, nick76 said: I agree with that but in this case if he thought that was a foul then it was a yellow card because it contact after the ball left the player ie late tackle. Double jeopardy rule. Penalty or card, not both. Ref thought process may have been I've just carded the keeper. That's another card unless I award penalty instead Edited February 15, 2023 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2023 Good game this. Pep really has his weird moments. The fullbacks he has on the bench and he’s playing Bernardo Silva there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdabush Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Double jeopardy rule. Penalty or card, not both. Ref thought process may have been I've just carded the keeper. That's another card unless I award penalty instead Wait so you think he could have given him a yellow card but not awarded a penalty?! There is no rule that states that you cannot give a yellow card if you awarded a penalty, in fact it happens all the time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Double jeopardy rule. Penalty or card, not both. You know that’s not a rule? That’s discretion by a ref but it’s not the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, nick76 said: I agree with that but in this case if he thought that was a foul then it was a yellow card because it contact after the ball left the player ie late tackle. That’s one of the things that makes the game so good, it’s all subjective. and that’s what makes VAR a crock of shite as most of it just moves the point of decision making/opinion….but that another story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, nick76 said: You know that’s not a rule? That’s discretion by a ref but it’s not the rule. Yeah the rule is that if you're the last man and deny a goalscoring opportunity but you make a genuine attempt to win the ball you shouldn't be sent off It can still be a yellow and doesn't only come in if its a penalty So in theory maybe interestingly is that if the ref thought he took him out he could have given a penalty and a straight red for that But I thought he was more jumping out of the way or just jumping in an attempted block rather than jumping to make a challenge Edited February 15, 2023 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, nick76 said: You know that’s not a rule? That’s discretion by a ref but it’s not the rule. What's this? "The double jeopardy rule came into effect ahead of the 2016-17 season following an 18-month review by IFAB, football's lawmakers, led by former Premier League referee David Elleray." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 He's offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Kiwivillan said: What's this? "The double jeopardy rule came into effect ahead of the 2016-17 season following an 18-month review by IFAB, football's lawmakers, led by former Premier League referee David Elleray." It exists but not in the way you suggested, rwad my other post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Just now, villa4europe said: It exists but not in the way you suggested, rwad my other post Trying to edit my post to say below post is correct about YC 8 minutes ago, djdabush said: Wait so you think he could have given him a yellow card but not awarded a penalty?! There is no rule that states that you cannot give a yellow card if you awarded a penalty, in fact it happens all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 This is bullshit, he's offside that's a 10 second decision that was obvious, just get on with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Ha, fecking ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Offside I also thought Haaland pulled back Gabriel first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, maqroll said: The replay clearly shows Ederson leaving both feet and jumping into him. He was making himself big to block the ball, happens all the time. He didn't affect the shot, Walker did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted February 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2023 Since when do they check offsides if its not a goal? Also yellow card recinded but Dougie keeps a yellow after being proved right on a VAR decision at Southampton? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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