KMitch Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Adam2003 said: He’s literally only scored two goals once this season, against top half Fulham. Everything else has been single goals against us, Brighton, Chelsea*, Brentford and Tottenham (and then yes, some absolute dross). So while you are totally entitled to think he is rubbish, this description just isn’t accurate at all. *tbf could be rolled into the dross. As @Rich192 posted in the Harvey Barnes thread, his stats are very poor. I would be shocked if Emery wanted him and we signed him this summer. He'll most likely end up at West Ham, Everton (if they survive), Forest, or one of the newly promoted teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: He’s literally only scored two goals once this season, against top half Fulham. Everything else has been single goals against us, Brighton, Chelsea*, Brentford and Tottenham (and then yes, some absolute dross). So while you are totally entitled to think he is rubbish, this description just isn’t accurate at all. *tbf could be rolled into the dross. I don't think he meant 2-3 goals in one game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 7 hours ago, MaVilla said: this is going to be one of those windows isnt it, where we get linked with Thuram, Lukaku, Asensio, Kang-In, Guendouzi, Vlahovic, Merino, Williams, Goncalves, P.Torres, F.Torres, Baena, Ugarte, Lo Celso........ Then we end up with a Lange 2 for 1 special from Belgium... Lo Celso and Guendouzi are completely achievable and wouldn’t surprise me if at least one is agreed already. But yes, we’re going to get excited about loads of big names just for them to go elsewhere or sign a new contract. Fun of the transfer window. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 7 hours ago, KMitch said: As @Rich192 posted in the Harvey Barnes thread, his stats are very poor. I would be shocked if Emery wanted him and we signed him this summer. He'll most likely end up at West Ham, Everton (if they survive), Forest, or one of the newly promoted teams. His FBREF stats you mean …. The club will have a vastly deeper set of data on him - we’ve got a whole department so I trust the process and most importantly Emery. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 11 hours ago, KMitch said: As @Rich192 posted in the Harvey Barnes thread, his stats are very poor. I would be shocked if Emery wanted him and we signed him this summer. He'll most likely end up at West Ham, Everton (if they survive), Forest, or one of the newly promoted teams. Stop referring to FBref stats as if that's the only data our legion of statisticians will have access to. Trust the manager, if he brings Barnes in, expect him to do a Danjuma with him overnight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Stop referring to FBref stats as if that's the only data our legion of statisticians will have access to. Trust the manager, if he brings Barnes in, expect him to do a Danjuma with him overnight. Do you think Barnes is a little underwhelming though, Steero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: Do you think Barnes is a little underwhelming though, Steero? I see inconsistency with him for sure (as with 99% of wingers in world football btw), but the raw materials are certainly there. Pace, directness and finishing ability. He can also spot a pass. I think the fact that he's English and at a currently unfashionable and struggling club as factors that are somewhat dampening peoples enthusiasm towards him as a target. As others have said, if he was from Sporting or Villarreal and had posted him numbers at his age over 5 seasons people would be far more enthusiastic I feel. What I will say is that we won't be bringing any player in unless they specifically meet Emery's system requirements. We may see some rather left field signings this window that seem strange but end up being masterful - we were treated to a taste of that with the Moreno transfer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Smith Rowe and Barnes would be both on my list for the right money. I think both need moves too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 40 minutes ago, Steero113 said: I think the fact that he's English and at a currently unfashionable and struggling club as factors that are somewhat dampening peoples enthusiasm towards him as a target. As others have said, if he was from Sporting or Villarreal and had posted him numbers at his age over 5 seasons people would be far more enthusiastic I feel. 100%. A 1 in 3, 25 year old winger from La Liga is exciting. From the Premier League, he's awful and inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Just now, wishywashy said: There’s absolutely no way he goes anywhere but us if we want him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Bamba is an exciting prospect for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 I'll be super suprised if Bamba isn't one of the first through the door. Also it'll be a good excuse to move some money into Vitória for some speculative South American signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted May 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2023 I think it would be strange to install a new scouting network with new staff… and then buy Harvey Barnes. He’s got a ‘Tom Cleverly’ sort of vibe to him in my opinion, not in how they play, but in terms of being quite often talked about but with no real reason why. He’ll go to Sheff Utd or something I think 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
one_ian_taylor Posted May 27, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, KAZZAM said: I'll be super suprised if Bamba isn't one of the first through the door. Also it'll be a good excuse to move some money into Vitória for some speculative South American signings. Or to put it another way, "Y arriba y arriba" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, bobzy said: 100%. A 1 in 3, 25 year old winger from La Liga is exciting. From the Premier League, he's awful and inconsistent. Except the winger from La Liga would probably cost less that £20m, whereas the English PL player will cost £40m+. That’s the issue people have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, duke313 said: Except the winger from La Liga would probably cost less that £20m, whereas the English PL player will cost £40m+. That’s the issue people have. I've only glossed over this page and the last, but... 18 minutes ago, alreadyexists said: I think it would be strange to install a new scouting network with new staff… and then buy Harvey Barnes. He’s got a ‘Tom Cleverly’ sort of vibe to him in my opinion, not in how they play, but in terms of being quite often talked about but with no real reason why. He’ll go to Sheff Utd or something I think 2 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Do you think Barnes is a little underwhelming though, Steero? 13 hours ago, KMitch said: As @Rich192 posted in the Harvey Barnes thread, his stats are very poor. I would be shocked if Emery wanted him and we signed him this summer. He'll most likely end up at West Ham, Everton (if they survive), Forest, or one of the newly promoted teams. 14 hours ago, Villan_of_oz said: Harvey Barnes would be an excellent purchase if the Premier League season was 6 matches long, unfortunately it's 38, so it wouldn't be an excellent purchase... Zero mention of price. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAnty Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, wishywashy said: Quick start a thread 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, HeyAnty said: Quick start a thread Best I can do is an Mbappe thread 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Van Der Boomen, who was linked to us within the last couple of weeks, is going to Ajax. So that's one off the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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