Pongo Waring Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Pinebro said: He clearly doesn't want to play second fiddle to Watkins We just have to see where this goes. But if he stays and things don't change in terms of regular game time we'll be having the same discussion in January Where ever he moves to he's always going to have competition right? Edited August 17 by Pongo Waring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted August 17 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17 Just now, Pinebro said: When is he realistically gonna bench out Watkins though That is the core of the dilemma here Cup matches obvious starting point, but also if he shows good form I can see him starting some PL matches to keep Ollie fresh and he could also start in our CL campaign for the same reason. Ollie can't start 2 matches a week for the entire season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted August 17 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17 Currently our joint top scorer!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, Pongo Waring said: Where ever he moves to he's always going to have competition right? Well Watkins and Haaland are the top 2 strikers in the league. I think he'll have a decent shot at any other club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderball Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) Clearly more than adequate back up. His antics is immaturity coupled with poor advice, but if he sees out his window he will get minutes and will demand minute's which I’m sure Emery will give him. Despite his petulance, Watkins is on notice. Outstanding for 20y.o., seriously must be right up there in world football? Edited August 17 by thunderball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 2 minutes ago, Villan_of_oz said: Cup matches obvious starting point, but also if he shows good form I can see him starting some PL matches to keep Ollie fresh and he could also start in our CL campaign for the same reason. Ollie can't start 2 matches a week for the entire season. I personally don't see him staying. May get another season out of him All clubs have this issue though. Jesus eventually went because of Haaland. Alvarez too. It isn't unique to us. Good players don't play and get unhappy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, Pinebro said: Well Watkins and Haaland are the top 2 strikers in the league. I think he'll have a decent shot at any other club If he goes to West Ham he's got Antonio and the new German to compete with If he goes Chelsea he got Jackson and the 20 other strikers they will sign to compete with Maybe Emery will trust Duran more this season to go Watkins-Duran uptop in some games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted August 17 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17 2 minutes ago, Pinebro said: Well Watkins and Haaland are the top 2 strikers in the league. I think he'll have a decent shot at any other club Sorry but he's not starting behind multiple more players than that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted August 17 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, Pinebro said: I personally don't see him staying. May get another season out of him All clubs have this issue though. Jesus eventually went because of Haaland. Alvarez too. It isn't unique to us. Good players don't play and get unhappy. Jesus and Alvarez had earned their stripes, Duran hasn't. I get your point but the examples you are using are not helping your argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pinebro Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, Villan_of_oz said: Jesus and Alvarez had earned their stripes, Duran hasn't. I get your point but the examples you are using are not helping your argument. My point is only that players get unhappy when not playing and cup games ain't gonna cut it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted August 17 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17 (edited) 1 minute ago, Pinebro said: My point is only that players get unhappy when not playing and cup games ain't gonna cut it Yes but my point is he hasn't proven anything yet and his impatience will probably hurt him more than us if he leaves. Edited August 17 by Villan_of_oz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, Villan_of_oz said: Yes but my point is he hasn't proven anything yet and is impatience will probably hurt him more than us if he leaves. I don't know Scored some seriously important goals last season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Jhon Duran prepared? Absolute not. The kid is a master of improvised football. got to love it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted August 17 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17 Just now, Pinebro said: I don't know Scored some seriously important goals last season Yes he did mostly from the bench, if he goes we will have a plan I'm sure. People were panicking over losing Diaby and Luiz's goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Reposted his agent's story. Both sound very happy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted August 17 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17 My best mate is a West Ham fan. I have enjoyed today. Thanks Jhon I hope he does stick around as he’s valuable to have in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: We’d be mad to let him go unless we get a ridiculous offer and we have a replacement lined up. He’s the perfect second striker. He’ll get games here. Literally everyone except Jhon knows this. Even his mug agent telling him to leave. We have to hope he develops brain cells as he matures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Would of been crazy to sell a talent like this to one of our rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 hour ago, HongKongVillan said: Plus Kudus No thanks, all fart and no shit. Wayward end product Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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