Anything11 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said: You cannot say I’m mistaken with any certainty. Look at the Fernandez interview incident, will the French players at Chelsea still play with him? Of course they will. What Duran has done is no where near that bad, and I’d imagine some players either don’t know about it or will not care. You would be surprised. And yes you are right I came on a little strong. Difference being is that the Fernandez incident has context - they were celebrating a win (not saying it justifies it - merely explains their behaviour). Duran is a different kettle of fish IMO at least. And don't be surprised if something of the Fernandez incident lingers - a few were very quick to denounce him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 I’m curious to know why we are so hard line on the £40m valuation. Monchi must feel very sure we are getting this fee, because the alternative seems problematic. Not selling him seems like it’s hindering any other transfers we want to make, for financial and team spot reasons. Also if we end up not selling him, we somehow got to try and introduce him back in to the squad.. what’s going to be difficult. It’s a curious gamble to be so hardlined on his valuation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 6 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: I’m curious to know why we are so hard line on the £40m valuation. Monchi must feel very sure we are getting this fee, because the alternative seems problematic. Not selling him seems like it’s hindering any other transfers we want to make, for financial and team spot reasons. Also if we end up not selling him, we somehow got to try and introduce him back in to the squad.. what’s going to be difficult. It’s a curious gamble to be so hardlined on his valuation. Maybe they are planning a much bigger sale next year, and don’t want to give other clubs the idea that Villa can be beaten down from the valuation they put on a player? A statement of how the club will do its business now, if you like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Just now, Awol said: Maybe they are planning a much bigger sale next year, and don’t want to give other clubs the idea that Villa can be beaten down from the valuation they put on a player? A statement of how the club will do its business now, if you like. A bigger sale, if they can get him working in the squad again. seems like reintroducing him in the squad is going to be difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 26 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: A bigger sale, if they can get him working in the squad again. seems like reintroducing him in the squad is going to be difficult. I meant a different player, don’t think Duran will be welcomed back. If the Hammers don’t cough up he’s probably off to Saudi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Just now, Awol said: I meant a different player, don’t think Duran will be welcomed back. If the Hammers don’t cough up he’s probably off to Saudi. Will he go to Saudi… not exactly a place you can party and **** around, also not the level he wants to play at either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 3 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Will he go to Saudi… not exactly a place you can party and **** around, also not the level he wants to play at either. I thought players lived in Bahrain and travelled to Saudi for games ? I anyway I can't see a Saudi club spending big on him. Doesn't have the profile yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: I thought players lived in Bahrain and travelled to Saudi for games ? I anyway I can't see a Saudi club spending big on him. Doesn't have the profile yet. Some do, and it would seem likely Duran would too. But it’s still not a lifestyle suited for him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted July 30 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, CarryOnVilla said: Also if we end up not selling him, we somehow got to try and introduce him back in to the squad.. what’s going to be difficult. It’s a curious gamble to be so hardlined on his valuation. Crossing his arms isn't going to affect the dressing room at all, let's be realistic these are young blokes they won't give a toss about crossing his arms. Some of the bedwetting going on over him, crossing his arms is bordering on stupid, definitely not a reason to lose £8m. I'm not sure what west ham are playing at tbh, they knew our valuation from the start yet continued with silly little increases and even throwing a player in the mix with only 1 year left on his contract. Their a throw back to the 90's, dinosaurs. Edited July 30 by tinker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 9 minutes ago, tinker said: Crossing his arms isn't going to affect the dressing room at all, let's be realistic these are young blokes they won't give a toss about crossing his arms. Some of the bedwetting going on over him, crossing his arms is bordering on stupid, definitely not a reason to lose £8m. I'm not sure what west ham are playing at tbh, they knew our valuation from the start yet continued with silly little increases and even throwing a paying in the mix with only 1 year left on his contract. Their a throw back to the 90's, dinosaurs. And the other bullshit, the supposed bullshit, as well the rumoured bullshit. also it’s reintegrating him to the squad. He’s clearly keen on moving away. If it it doesn’t happen, he’s going to probably be upset. who knows what potential bullshit will happen from that Edited July 30 by CarryOnVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 5 hours ago, villanmac said: Had to check this. A career yellow card rate of 1 every 158 minutes. Impressive. Just while you sleep at night he will rack up almost three yellow cards. Man’s a lunatic. Edited July 30 by It's Your Round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 (edited) 2 hours ago, CarryOnVilla said: I’m curious to know why we are so hard line on the £40m valuation. Monchi must feel very sure we are getting this fee, because the alternative seems problematic. Not selling him seems like it’s hindering any other transfers we want to make, for financial and team spot reasons. Also if we end up not selling him, we somehow got to try and introduce him back in to the squad.. what’s going to be difficult. It’s a curious gamble to be so hardlined on his valuation. The alternative is letting players know if they act a maggot they will get the move they want Edited July 30 by zak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Just now, zak said: The alternative, is I’m not sure. it’s a curiosity to what’s going on. Either Monchi is very sure we’ll get them £40m, he’s very sure the club can settle him back in, or he’s taking a gamble with being hard fixed on the valuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Just now, CarryOnVilla said: I’m not sure. it’s a curiosity to what’s going on. Either Monchi is very sure we’ll get them £40m, he’s very sure the club can settle him back in, or he’s taking a gamble with being hard fixed on the valuation. Sorry it accidentally sent before I finished. See above for edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted July 30 VT Supporter Share Posted July 30 (edited) 20 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: And the other bullshit, the supposed bullshit, as well the rumoured bullshit. also it’s reintegrating him to the squad. He’s clearly keen on moving away. If it it doesn’t happen, he’s going to probably be upset. who knows what potential bullshit will happen from that He's going to have act like an professional athlete, get his head down and prove to west ham, or whoever, he's worth £40m. It's not complicated, not like singing racist songs then sitting next to a player you have insulted, ain't no hot air surrounding that fiasco... just one that affects villa, that's challenging the top 4, and the big 6. Oh dear , he's crossed his arms, moaned about not playing and tried to get a move to a team that will start him every game. He will stay and play for us, West ham will not pay , although watching them against wolves may force their hand. Edited July 30 by tinker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: I thought players lived in Bahrain and travelled to Saudi for games ? Pretty much yeah. The other thing I don't think ppl realise, is that with enough money... You can " party " anywhere. Yes even in Saudi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 hours ago, CarryOnVilla said: I’m curious to know why we are so hard line on the £40m valuation. Monchi must feel very sure we are getting this fee, because the alternative seems problematic. Not selling him seems like it’s hindering any other transfers we want to make, for financial and team spot reasons. Also if we end up not selling him, we somehow got to try and introduce him back in to the squad.. what’s going to be difficult. It’s a curious gamble to be so hardlined on his valuation. We could have a hefty sell on fee owed to Chicago Fire and were trying to maximise profits by getting all the money we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, zak said: Sorry it accidentally sent before I finished. See above for edited But does the club want to keep “a maggot”? if so what do you do with him? Bench him to never play again, where his value plummets? Or play him, when “a maggot” attitude may not deserve it either. it’s all an odd limbo space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 30 minutes ago, tinker said: Crossing his arms isn't going to affect the dressing room at all, let's be realistic these are young blokes they won't give a toss about crossing his arms. Some of the bedwetting going on over him, crossing his arms is bordering on stupid, definitely not a reason to lose £8m. I'm not sure what west ham are playing at tbh, they knew our valuation from the start yet continued with silly little increases and even throwing a player in the mix with only 1 year left on his contract. Their a throw back to the 90's, dinosaurs. @PaulMcGrath_5 seeing the use of there / their / they're 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheVilla26 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 Swap for Mateta? Keep an eye on his Insta for any Eagle impressions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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