nepal_villan Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 52 minutes ago, CVByrne said: IF he ends up a £100m player we end up getting another 8.5m so we will get 35 + 8.5 + any add ons we get also Aren’t sell-on clauses usually the amount above the initial transfer fee? So if we sold him for 35m and then West Ham sells him for 100m we would get 10% of 65m not 100m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Just now, nepal_villan said: Aren’t sell-on clauses usually the amount above the initial transfer fee? So if we sold him for 35m and then West Ham sells him for 100m we would get 10% of 65m not 100m. can be either, depends on the contract. iirc Coutinho's was 50% of the base fee (we owe them if we sell). Others are % of profit. etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 3 minutes ago, nepal_villan said: Aren’t sell-on clauses usually the amount above the initial transfer fee? So if we sold him for 35m and then West Ham sells him for 100m we would get 10% of 65m not 100m. Sorry yes 6.5m not 8.5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Kid's a knobhead. He'll have 10 clubs by the time he's 27. Cashing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 2 hours ago, VillaParkAvenue said: So, if Jhon scores, will he show his previous club respect by not celebrating? Mental image of him scoring and running straight to Emery, standing in front of him and saluting whilst Emery claps and laughs (through gritted teeth). This happens in the 89th minute and we’re 5-0 up so it’s all good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 1 hour ago, Adam2003 said: He’s lashed in screamers against some of the best teams in the country. It’s totally ok to think he’s not going to make it for whatever reason, but he’s clearly already someone who will likely score 10+ goals in a PL season if he’s playing regularly (just based on his record per minute for us) and there’s almost no-one of his age who that is true of. £35m is great though because if he does go on to be a £100m player we won’t feel too sore about it, but if he crashes like many on here predict then we have banked a nice profit anyway for someone who isn’t playing much. My guess is he ends up somewhere between those. Yep, spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switters Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 I prob haven't paid enough attention to know why people seem to dislike him so much nowadays. If he goes, it may just be cos he sees Ollie Watkins blocking his path to first team for the next couple years at least. He prob does need regular starts to develop his all round game in this league. clearly got some talent. If this is the deal it sounds a better move for him than Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 If a deal is agreed, Villa will probably be saying yeah it was £50m, West Ham claiming it was £25m. I look forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 12 minutes ago, switters said: I prob haven't paid enough attention to know why people seem to dislike him so much nowadays. If he goes, it may just be cos he sees Ollie Watkins blocking his path to first team for the next couple years at least. He prob does need regular starts to develop his all round game in this league. clearly got some talent. If this is the deal it sounds a better move for him than Chelsea. The body language experts think his attitude stinks and people are offended that he doesn't want to be here forever and isn't die hard villa and want to learn his trade under unai the god To be fair he does come across as a little immature but then he is young, mcginn said in an interview something along the lines of him being batshit crazy too But for everything his personality currently is and even for how much money we can get for him it'll be a shame if he does leave, there's a player in there, especially if it's for west ham cos they will start him and he'll go on to have a good career, Chelsea there's every danger they'll ruin him I'd rather we kept him, I don't think he's going to be easy to replace 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 14 minutes ago, switters said: I prob haven't paid enough attention to know why people seem to dislike him so much nowadays. If he goes, it may just be cos he sees Ollie Watkins blocking his path to first team for the next couple years at least. He prob does need regular starts to develop his all round game in this league. clearly got some talent. If this is the deal it sounds a better move for him than Chelsea. I don’t think anyone dislikes him per se, although appreciate some of the comments might make it seem so. I don’t think any of us want him to leave, he’s clearly talented and scored some big goals for us this season. That being said, there are indications that he’s difficult to manage both on and off the field so it’s rock and hard place for us, keep him and risk him being disruptive if he’s not getting the game time he expects, or sell him (for a seemingly great fee) and risk him becoming world class over the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 51 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Kid's a knobhead. Is he? I haven't invested enough time to get mad about his use of social media. Appreciate his goals and wish him luck whereever he lands next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 29 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: If a deal is agreed, Villa will probably be saying yeah it was £50m, West Ham claiming it was £25m. I look forward to it. and the Sky6 fans will be complaining about this deal somehow, that we are cheating or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 5 hours ago, BOF said: Not ideal giving a potentially very good player to a side just below us in the pecking order, but hey ho, if they're the ones offering the money then we take it and run. Definitely one that can come back to haunt us. Emery knows best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Ultimately, cash in and rebuild. If he doesn't want to be here, so be it. No point holding onto someone who wants to leave. Best for both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Considering a striker Liam Delap, who's 1 year older than Duran who has scored 12 championship goals in the last 3 seasons went for 20 million today. I think 35 million for Duran is cheap! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 (edited) I wonder if we will insist on Lewis Orford being part of the deal. £45mill plus extra and Orford - oh and a nice sell on clause and I’d sell. Edited July 9 by thabucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Archer has to stay if durans sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 4 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Archer has to stay if durans sold He won't, we'll just sign a new CF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Archer has to stay if durans sold Archer isn't good enough, it's not going to happen for the lad We'd need a new back up, I don't think it's going to happen for them either but maybe moukoko or adeyemi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 6 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Archer has to stay if durans sold Or we just get another striker/forward who is currently better than Archer and Duran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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