CVByrne Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: This may be it. Waiting for next month. As other poster epointed out, if we can get up to that 100 mill Jack type money and more with sales next month it boosts us even further I think Maatsen + Kellyman did the job for June ME. I think we wanted to do Gallagher / Duran together. Though Gallagher wants to wait until after Euros so we'll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 2 hours ago, villa89 said: Didn't get any minutes for Colombia. Maybe he's not as good as he thinks he is. He won't even get a move to Fulham at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicho Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 20 hours ago, KevinRichardsonsMoustache said: John hasn't reached their training ground yet. Two possible explanations: 1. He is still trying to work out how to make the most explosive arrival in history: perhaps a jet pack or some sort of catapult. 2. He's lost his house keys and is locked in the club rental house in Four Oaks. Or he’s in Tenerife 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: Think neither us nor Chelsea need it done before end of June now so we'll hold off for 24/25 as the profit from sale for us will be included in the 3 year cycle for Squad Cost rule in PL for 3 years instead of 2 years if we wait until next month Feels that way. Luiz was the first team player we needed to get done before June 30th and since that agreement we've also sold Tim and Kellyman deal is pretty much done so that's pretty much 50m which was the figure speculated in the press. Duran will go somewhere in the next two months and then if it's a permanent we likely don't have to sell anyone we don't want to next summer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, CVByrne said: Think neither us nor Chelsea need it done before end of June now so we'll hold off for 24/25 as the profit from sale for us will be included in the 3 year cycle for Squad Cost rule in PL for 3 years instead of 2 years if we wait until next month You are right, it's actually counter productive for us to sell more than we need to just about break even our PSR balance in 23/24. It's more beneficial to defer any additional sales (and profit) to 24/25 accounts as you said. Which makes me think that Swiss Rumble numbers (where he predicted £58m gap in 23/24) must have been very close, as this is roughly the profit we generated on Luiz, Tim and Kellyman. If our gap was much smaller as you predicted, we would have just waited with Kellyman sale until 1st July. Edited June 25 by Czarnikjak 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 16 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: You are right, it's actually counter productive for us to sell more than we need to just about break even our PSR balance in 23/24. It's more beneficial to defer any additional sales (and profit) to 24/25 accounts as you said. Which makes me think that Swiss Rumble numbers (where he predicted £58m gap in 23/24) must have been very close, as this is roughly the profit we generated on Luiz, Tim and Kellyman. If our gap was much smaller as you predicted, we would have just waited with Kellyman sale until 1st July. Hard to know, as if we went out to these teams to do deals, we needed some to get done for PSR by end June. We were not putting all our eggs in the same basket. I think Iroegbunam + Luiz or Duran was enough. I think Gallagher not wanting to do anything during Euros meant Duran was on hold. We wanted Maatsen so Kellyman was part of that deal, ie this was one for helping Chelsea. So Tim + Luiz would be 9 + 35/40 (depends on if there is a sell on clause or not). So I'd say maybe we needed around the 40m mark to be safe. IT depends if we take the 8.5m hit on Coutinho this month also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frodo Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 11 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: If the talk is our PSR is all sorted now & we can sit down with him & convince him that this is the club he can make his name, he will have to buck up somewhat, I would be very happy in keeping him as I think there is one hell of a player in there. Think he would get more game time next year & it's Champions league who doesn't want to play in the Champions league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 17 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: Who is Ben Jacobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tonyh29 Posted June 25 Popular Post Share Posted June 25 2 minutes ago, Frodo said: & it's Champions league who doesn't want to play in the Champions league. Anyone that joins Spurs , United and Chelsea 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 7 minutes ago, Frodo said: If the talk is our PSR is all sorted now & we can sit down with him & convince him that this is the club he can make his name, he will have to buck up somewhat, I would be very happy in keeping him as I think there is one hell of a player in there. Think he would get more game time next year & it's Champions league who doesn't want to play in the Champions league. I’d expect them to have tried the ”sit down and talk” approach by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 22 minutes ago, Frodo said: If the talk is our PSR is all sorted now & we can sit down with him & convince him that this is the club he can make his name, he will have to buck up somewhat, I would be very happy in keeping him as I think there is one hell of a player in there. Think he would get more game time next year & it's Champions league who doesn't want to play in the Champions league. Yeah but would we just be kicking the can down the road to potentially bigger problems? Believe me, I would hope and love for it to be the opposite and he ends up getting his head down and maturing in the process. Maybe we give him some more trust in Cup Games etc as a trade off. However I'm currently just not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AshVilla Posted June 25 Popular Post Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, Frodo said: If the talk is our PSR is all sorted now & we can sit down with him & convince him that this is the club he can make his name, he will have to buck up somewhat, I would be very happy in keeping him as I think there is one hell of a player in there. Think he would get more game time next year & it's Champions league who doesn't want to play in the Champions league. Not for me. Think he needs to go now. Fed up of hearing his agent whoring him out every transfer window. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, Frodo said: If the talk is our PSR is all sorted now & we can sit down with him & convince him that this is the club he can make his name, he will have to buck up somewhat, I would be very happy in keeping him as I think there is one hell of a player in there. Think he would get more game time next year & it's Champions league who doesn't want to play in the Champions league. Nah, can’t agree and would be better he leaves and we get a good fee for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 15 hours ago, Zatman said: McGinn said he was a handful. Didn't say was unprofessional only people online have said that. The online detectives Said he was a handful? Did he? He said 'sometimes you think come on big man, have a bit more respect'. That suggests he's disrespectful not a handful? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 25 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 25 Chelsea ain't gonna buy him. Sadly. They would have wrapped it up by now if they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: Chelsea ain't gonna buy him. Sadly. They would have wrapped it up by now if they were. Makes sense if the deal is done after 30th June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon66 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 6 hours ago, CVByrne said: Who is Ben Jacobs? I'd have some concerns if I was buying a player that didnt want immediate game time. Ben must be crackers....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Delphinho123 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 He really doesn’t like us does he. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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