Herman22 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 49 minutes ago, tinker said: West ham agreed a fee, we let them speak to Duran and he agreed personal terms. Duran thought the deal was done and gave his crossed arms gesture.... West ham then went back on the agreed fee and tried to knock us down from the agreed fee. Deleting his villa posts......so what he was leaving us as far as he was concerned. Can't believe our fans would allow West ham to play them like this, but I suppose everyone has different levels of sensitivity. This is just fiction. What every reputable jurno said was all bids from West Ham were rejected. You’re trying to vindicate his behaviour with fiction! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 50 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: I think this is it: This was a really good listen. Guy seems to know his stuff and isn’t slating us at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: Do you know that for a fact? Been a few accounts that he pulled light fittings out etc. Club had to foot the bill for thousands of pounds worth of damage… that’s what I read/heard some time ago but specifics/details were light. Some accounts claiming to have some inside info from the club have stated that there are many incidents we don’t know about, much that has been kept quiet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 46 minutes ago, Chine said: The real point for us wanting JD moved isn’t down to a damaged apartment that is just a small part of his overall picture. Believe me a lot worse happens within the first team BCD !! … As I’ve said before I’ve never really seen him being/ causing a problem around the club he’s just young and boisterous. But what I do know from the staff in that group is his problems lie out on the training pitch ,if and when he appears .The view is once over the white line JD doesn’t do being coached so meticulously down to being on the right blade of grass , doesn’t take criticism and strops into refusal causing problems within sessions leading to confrontation. I know this from senior first team staff. Well that’s just not acceptable at all… and correlates with what McGinn was saying or hinting about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 30 minutes ago, Chine said: Sometimes he doesn’t come in and no one knows where he is , doesn’t answer the phone and is when people go to his haunts and speak to his PA he’s nowhere to be found , quite a few occasions he’s been missing for a couple of days . He just pleases himself . Bloody hell…. how do you know all this btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Well if he didn’t turn up for training when things were going well, it will be interesting to see if he turns up next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 17 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: If we end up keeping Jhon. We really need to firm but gentlemanly with him. Show him how a professional club treats their players. Nothing like how West Ham have treated him No idea what his family situation is… but it would probably have benefited us and Jhon to have moved them in together here. I can recall Dougie’s family being with him fairly often… at his apartment? Suppose it’s all too late now but… he is a young, foreign lad who would need help adjusting and settling… But you just cannot be so unprofessional and disrespect the club (and manager) that has given you such a big opportunity and pays your wages… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 minutes ago, Jas10 said: No idea what his family situation is… but it would probably have benefited us and Jhon to have moved them in together here. I can recall Dougie’s family being with him fairly often… at his apartment? Suppose it’s all too late now but… he is a young, foreign lad who would need help adjusting and settling… But you just cannot be so unprofessional and disrespect the club (and manager) that has given you such a big opportunity and pays your wages… We have to be firm with him, but we got to act professionally and good. He may want to play silly beggers, but we can’t, as much as some poster on here want the club to act. He’s a good player that needs to get back in the squad. Being in our squad and playing well, he will get his desired move and Villa will get their desired fee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 3 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3 27 minutes ago, Herman22 said: This is just fiction. What every reputable jurno said was all bids from West Ham were rejected. You’re trying to vindicate his behaviour with fiction! I’m not defending his behaviour. The guy seems like an absolute word removed. But just to be pedantic, a club doesn’t need to accept a bid to give permission for clubs to speak to/agree terms with a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) 13 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: We have to be firm with him, but we got to act professionally and good. He may want to play silly beggers, but we can’t, as much as some poster on here want the club to act. He’s a good player that needs to get back in the squad. Being in our squad and playing well, he will get his desired move and Villa will get their desired fee It’s just so thick and desperate from his side… don’t he and his agent realise (if they are so eager for a move and more money) that turning out for us in the CL is only going to increase exposure and interest? (And should get us a better sale price too). Especially if he performs well and gets the odd goal? European teams will pay attention if they see a young CF showing promise and potential in elite competition… he should be working his ass off to make the best impression rather than feeling entitled in any way. He would have a queue of good suitors then… He has plenty of examples and inspirations… why not look at the guy ahead of him in the team and try to replicate some of that? The lack of patience and perspective is stunning… he’s not a star player that can demand regular starts and minutes at any decent club. Needs to learn and develop and who better than Unai? One of the reasons I want him gone now (even though I have liked him previously and before much came to light about him) is to relieve Unai of the headache, stress and disruption. We need everyone on board, together and invested… not any disruptive presence, egos or selfish prima donna’s. Full focus and steam ahead please, can’t have anyone holding us back. Get on board or gtfo. The club is bigger than any individual player. Edited August 3 by Jas10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveburnside Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 I cant believe Duran would be that unprofessional!! I'm genuinely stunned!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post one_ian_taylor Posted August 3 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 3 55 minutes ago, Frodo said: Basically they had the chance to get Duran for £30 million before the end of June because of PSR as we were in a panic (not sure that's right, we were panicing) anyhow, guy called Tim who does the deals decided great we will come back to that deal after I've gone over to Brazil for 3 weeks to sort out another deal, so in that 3 week period we sold Dougie for £50 million & have no longer got any PSR issue so we put the price up to £40 million & they can't seem to get to £40 million, so they too Tim off the deal & put someone else on the deal, in the meantime West Ham are in constant contact promising the move, the other guy has offered a straight £35 million no add ons no sell on fee ..... in the mean time Tim has gone off to get the Dortmund lad because been put out because West ham have removed him from the Duran deal, its a feckin mess but the youtube video explains in more detail This guy? 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Can you just imagine what the subject of another thread ( Brian ) must be thinking about this guy. Wouldn’t it be good, if he could have just five minutes with him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 3 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I’m not defending his behaviour. The guy seems like an absolute word removed. But just to be pedantic, a club doesn’t need to accept a bid to give permission for clubs to speak to/agree terms with a player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 3 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3 4 hours ago, Herman22 said: This is just fiction. What every reputable jurno said was all bids from West Ham were rejected. You’re trying to vindicate his behaviour with fiction! Played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 minutes ago, tinker said: Played Muted! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 6 minutes ago, tinker said: i guess thats why clubs talk to the players "entourage" then.........not the player or their agent....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted August 3 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3 2 minutes ago, MaVilla said: i guess thats why clubs talk to the players "entourage" then.........not the player or their agent....... Played 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 I've heard some stories about some of our former players from a a legit source We've had far worse than Jhon Duran at the club. Far far worse 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 3 VT Supporter Share Posted August 3 34 minutes ago, tinker said: Correct. was this posted to dispute my post? Because it doesn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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