JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) I was a right prick when I was 19 ( I still kind of am but you know what I mean lol ) You can tell he's a hot head, I hope he just doesn't go the route of many talents who lost the plot. Balotelli etc Nothing to indicate this is the case. However, he does kind of have to be treated like a " son " somewhat. Edited November 4, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, ChesterDad said: I agree - I think this kid does have the attributes to be a great player. I do think however, he will probably have to go elsewhere, before he realises his potential. I think he’s likely to be a slow burn to the top. But feel sure he will get there. I feel far less sure. Too many young players that think they've made it before they have fail to deliver on their promise. He's more likely to fall into that category than not, especially if Emery has had to come out and say that in public. He could have swept it under the carpet. But he brought it into the open. Seems like the softly softly private approach wasnt working on him. I will say that I can't think of anyone I'd rather have trying to get him on the right path than Emery though. A lot of reading between the lines there, but Emery isn't a man to say those things in public lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) Maybe the " toe infection " is the new " shin splints" Edited November 4, 2023 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I was a right prick when I was 19 ( I still kind of am but you know what I mean lol ) You can tell he's a hot head, I hope he just doesn't go the route of many talents who lost the plot. Balotelli etc Nothing to indicate this is the case. However, he does kind of have to be treated like a " son " somewhat. Yeah and that’s why I think Emery will hold him to different standards from a senior pro. He’ll be more forgiving of lapses of judgment, and he’ll give him more chances to **** up, but ultimately he’ll want him to buy into the process. The thing that has surprised me about Emery at Villa is how good a man manager he is. I knew he was a great tactician, but behind the awkward demeanour, he seems to have a good sense of how to handle people. Fairly confident he’ll work out how to deal with Jhon Duran and they’ll end up in a good place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 What rot are you lot chatting He's been injured, and emery has probably been asked about him and emery has said yeah he's a world class talent he just needs to make the most of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan95 Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, mjmooney said: I think JPA should have a word with him. I know when he joined they had that message from Angel and it was nice for us fans but I wonder how much Duran actually knew about him, being from a different generation. He would have only been 3 years old when he left villa for example Edited November 4, 2023 by villan95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: What rot are you lot chatting He's been injured, and emery has probably been asked about him and emery has said yeah he's a world class talent he just needs to make the most of it. I don’t think that’s the full truth. Given the stuff with his social media and now Emery says “I don’t know” when asked if there’s a problem, there’s more than enough reason to think there’s been a bit of an argument. Fights happen all the time at football clubs and they’re rarely made fully public. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentVillan Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: What rot are you lot chatting He's been injured, and emery has probably been asked about him and emery has said yeah he's a world class talent he just needs to make the most of it. Read the quote from Emery again, not saying it’s a huge issue that will cause ongoing problems, but pretty clear he wants him to be more focused - not unusual for a player his age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 You could see early on that he's got a touch of arrogance about him, and that's not necessarily a bad thing in sport, but it is if you think nobody can tell you anything you don't already know. He's probably always dominated his opponents, and now he doesn't get much playing time. He's far from home in an unfamiliar culture and is probably a little bored and restless. Who knows the full story though. I was hoping the Latin contingent would make things easier for him, but perhaps not, and that's concerning. Emery's statement was a definite broadside, but couched in praise to soften the blow. An interesting development. Hopefully the young man has people he trusts who are trying to show him the right way forward. If he blows this opportunity because of an attitude problem or stubbornness, he'll live to regret it, badly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 In the words of Roy Keane he needs to "relax himself" He's number 2 striker for a team hoping to push CL under one of the best coaches in the world. We've heard many a story of a retired pro leaving a good environment and a big club as they were young and ego driven and it all going tits up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Not in the matchday squad again for Forest, interested to see if he makes it for the European game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: Not in the matchday squad again for Forest, interested to see if he makes it for the European game... infected toe, apparently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted November 6, 2023 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 17 hours ago, VillanousOne said: infected toe Didn't @bickster used to be their roadie? 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 hope Jhon Jader can play a part thursday night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Is there any news on availability for tomorrow? Would be good for Watkins to get a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich192 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Yeah he's available for tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 On 04/11/2023 at 23:33, maqroll said: You could see early on that he's got a touch of arrogance about him, and that's not necessarily a bad thing in sport, but it is if you think nobody can tell you anything you don't already know. He's probably always dominated his opponents, and now he doesn't get much playing time. He's far from home in an unfamiliar culture and is probably a little bored and restless. Who knows the full story though. I was hoping the Latin contingent would make things easier for him, but perhaps not, and that's concerning. Emery's statement was a definite broadside, but couched in praise to soften the blow. An interesting development. Hopefully the young man has people he trusts who are trying to show him the right way forward. If he blows this opportunity because of an attitude problem or stubbornness, he'll live to regret it, badly. i always think its funny when clubs assume players of the same nationality or region will get on well. loads of english people i dont like and the countries within Britain universally hate each other. Agree with the sentiment though about how difficult it is to settle, particularly at the age of 19. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Hopefully he’s get another few minutes under his belt tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted November 9, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 9, 2023 18 hours ago, cheltenham_villa said: the countries within Britain universally hate each other. Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, mjmooney said: Nonsense. Is true tbf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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