Jas10 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tayls said: The Durán stuff feels very faffy to me at the minute. They’d have known for a while they’d have wanted him gone. If that is holding us up with regards to Felix or whoever else, then it’s a bit silly. The only silly ones are us trying to make out like we have a clue about anything or this sort of stuff… Unai and Monchi have been down this road so many times in their careers… they know what they’re doing and how to do it. They will do what’s best for the club or at least exhaust their efforts. Why take lower offer if there is a realistic chance to get more? We aren’t privy to anything at all. We are clueless buffoons. Edited July 27 by Jas10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, Jas10 said: The only silly ones are us trying to make out like we have a clue about anything or this sort of stuff… Unai and Monchi have been down this road so many times in their careers… they know what they’re doing and how to do it. We are clueless buffoons. Correct. Although based on the FFP thread, it seems like we are poor and probably shouldn’t be forking out on Felix! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 27 VT Supporter Share Posted July 27 Meanwhile, the shitposting on X just never fails to spread ... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steero113 Posted July 27 Popular Post Share Posted July 27 Just now, Marka Ragnos said: Meanwhile, the shitposting on X just never fails to spread ... Clearly fake, suns shining. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Leeroy said: Makes you wonder why we rejected a decent offer for him then If getting Felix is dependent on Duran sale just hope West Ham come back with the offer we want or we’re a bit stuck. As we’ve seen mentioned or discussed… the problems may be the structure of the deal. If we only get 5-10m upfront and the rest is in instalments or conditional… that’s less advantageous. For as much value as we are trying to extract, they will be trying to get him for as low a cost as possible on their end. It’s a battle, it’s a negotiation. These things aren’t easy or straightforward. We have to protect ourselves and extract the maximum amount possible and consider the potential value. Not rush into a deal that leaves us short… I don’t know the details or workings on these deals and how the finances work… but what if we only get a relatively small fee in for the first few months, him and his agent start acting up and pushing for a move elsewhere… someone comes in for him in Jan… or whatever? All sorts of scenarios we can imagine and speculate on. We don’t need to, Monchi and co will have already had this all worked out and pre planned to a degree. They are no mugs. Edited July 27 by Jas10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 4 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: Meanwhile, the shitposting on X just never fails to spread ... That airport couldn’t be more international! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 27 VT Supporter Share Posted July 27 (edited) The comparatively low Transfermarkt market value sort of freaks me out. Please explain why my fears are meaningless. Edited July 27 by Marka Ragnos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 minute ago, Marka Ragnos said: The comparatively low Transfermarkt market value sort of freaks me out. It's been falling non stop since his transfer to Atletico. Buying him is like trying to catch a falling knife. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bielesibub Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 5 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: Meanwhile, the shitposting on X just never fails to spread ... nope. thats Barcelona airport, a reverse image search in google brings up this image from this article from 1st September https://tribuna.com/en/news/fcbarcelona-2023-09-01-spotted-joao-felix-lands-in-barcelona-amid-reports-of-forthcoming-transfer/ Quote Spotted: Joao Felix lands in Barcelona amid reports of forthcoming transfer More on Tribuna.com: https://tribuna.com/en/news/fcbarcelona-2023-09-01-spotted-joao-felix-lands-in-barcelona-amid-reports-of-forthcoming-transfer/?utm_source=copy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Tayls said: Correct. Although based on the FFP thread, it seems like we are poor and probably shouldn’t be forking out on Felix! Sorry… but that just sounds like more rubbish. Do we think we know more about our situation or standing with FFP/PSR than anyone at the club? After selling Dougie, the common message is that we’re in the clear now anyway. And we are improving off the pitch too. We are not poor at all and carry zero debt, unlike other clubs. The only thing that has restricted us are the rules (see Nassef’s comments not so long ago). We know what we’re doing, have just completed a profitable deal (Diaby) with at least another on the way. We are fine. We have the best ownership and regime, as well as the best manager… probably ever in our time supporting this club. Let’s demonstrate a little trust, faith and belief. They are on it. We should just try to enjoy it and stop being stupid negative nancies. When was the last time we had it so good as fans? Edited July 27 by Jas10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 6 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: The comparatively low Transfermarkt market value sort of freaks me out. Please explain why my fears are meaningless. It’s the worst site for transfer values… they’re laughably bad or inaccurate. Over the years, we’ve seen how badly/low our players values have been recorded on there. They don’t have a clue and have apparently admitted so. It’s not a reasonable or accurate source for that kind of info. Better for looking at player appearances, goals and assists over the seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 25 minutes ago, TDR V2 said: He's pushing VT to get off the fence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 24 minutes ago, Steero113 said: BuT ThERes No geNuINE InTeReST (Shit…shit… pleeeeeeaaasssseeee… I don’t want this to happen! ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 20 minutes ago, Steero113 said: Clearly fake, suns shining. Hey… Birmingham IS warmer than Manchester… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 49 minutes ago, Marka Ragnos said: The comparatively low Transfermarkt market value sort of freaks me out. Please explain why my fears are meaningless. Seriously? Transfermarkt valuations have always been a joke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 55 minutes ago, Jas10 said: As we’ve seen mentioned or discussed… the problems may be the structure of the deal. If we only get 5-10m upfront and the rest is in instalments or conditional… that’s less advantageous. For as much value as we are trying to extract, they will be trying to get him for as low a cost as possible on their end. It’s a battle, it’s a negotiation. These things aren’t easy or straightforward. We have to protect ourselves and extract the maximum amount possible and consider the potential value. Not rush into a deal that leaves us short… I don’t know the details or workings on these deals and how the finances work… but what if we only get a relatively small fee in for the first few months, him and his agent start acting up and pushing for a move elsewhere… someone comes in for him in Jan… or whatever? All sorts of scenarios we can imagine and speculate on. We don’t need to, Monchi and co will have already had this all worked out and pre planned to a degree. They are no mugs. I’m not sure the structure will matter because we can book the complete transfer up front I believe. But maybe we need minimum £40m to fund Felix so £32m isn’t enough….. I understand it’s not easy and I need to try to be patient, but I just really want this done quickly so we can relax and focus our attention on getting players out and hopefully bringing in 1-2 more (a defender, maybe another striker if we get a decent price for Archer). Anyway sounded positive from Fab so fingers crossed this picks up speed early next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 14 minutes ago, Leeroy said: I’m not sure the structure will matter because we can book the complete transfer up front I believe. But maybe we need minimum £40m to fund Felix so £32m isn’t enough….. I understand it’s not easy and I need to try to be patient, but I just really want this done quickly so we can relax and focus our attention on getting players out and hopefully bringing in 1-2 more (a defender, maybe another striker if we get a decent price for Archer). Anyway sounded positive from Fab so fingers crossed this picks up speed early next week. No worries mate, I can understand the eagerness. But we don’t need to fret, Unai and Monchi will get things done and to their pleasing, I’m quite sure of it. Whether or not we sign Felix, we will be in a good place and there are alternatives out there. Plenty of time left in the window too but I do get the impression we want to get as much done as early as possible and integrate new signings asap. We’ve got to enjoy this era rather than over analyse or fret… its taken a long time to get to this kind of level and we’ve endured a lot of crap for a long time… thankfully, that is all over now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Did Unai tell him this personally? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Did Unai tell him this personally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 hours ago, Herman22 said: So that means absolutely nothing? Who is Emery pushing? No offer on the table so no decision to be made. Doesnt sound like our main push to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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