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19 minutes ago, TRO said:

My point was, they was not " one hit wonders" or put simply, inconsistent.

That was what Everton fans told me about onana too. Very inconsistent. I just have faith in Emery.

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21 minutes ago, TRO said:

yeah....it can happen.....and then we get Ross McCormack, Jhon Duran to a degree....Neale Cooper, remember him, big reputation and flop.....Phil was one of the most mercurial talents, around, but no consistency, or physicality.

It's a gamble.....and big money, is a big risk, under such circumstances.

If it come off to our advantage....happy days.

The only one of those that was signed by Emery was Duran, and rumour was we were already tracking him anyway. And Duran is more than capable, just a bad attitude. It was a risk, one which we're very likely to make money on.

This is very different. Would Unai have got starry eyed and signed his mate Coutinho? Very doubtful, cos he's an adult that actually knows his stuff.

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All I’ve seen so far, regarding wages, is that we don’t have capacity on our wage bill/budget. That’s hardly surprising with some of the high earners we have and the numbers in the squad - we still need to complete sales.

Diaby is almost gone/done, Duran on the way… Digne and/or Moreno to go, must get rid of the Donk (stupid wage too, overpaid).

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1 hour ago, villabromsgrove said:

In 2019 when Felix became one of the world's most expensive players and also became one of football's highest earners, the seeds of his future career downfall were sown. He had to justify that enormous financial investment or suffer the consequences of being unsellable if he failed to live up to the hype.

Due to either wrong advice from his agent and advisors or being blinded by money and joining the wrong club, he was eventually left floundering in a team that had evolved to play defensive negative football, set up for grinding out 1-0 wins. By the time he fell out with the dour and obstinate Diego Simeone, there was literally nowhere to go because no other club were willing (or able?) to pay the outrageous sums necessary to allow Atletico to sell him. His coach didn't like him and the president of his club questioned his attitude and motivation. It wasn't all Felix's fault, it was a combination of a 19 year old having an enormous financial weight hung around his neck, and a young man's inability to adjust to demands of a coach and a team that demanded physicality and work rate ahead of finesse and fluidity.

Where does he go from here? In my opinion he is at a clear crossroads in his career. He has to accept that his stratospheric wages are crippling his future prospects and be prepared to take a big pay cut to join a club that plays his style of football in order to fit into that club's existing pay structure, or he can accept obscurity as a perpetual loan player while seeing out his current contract with Atletico which expires in the summer of 2029!

If his motivation is still money then future loans or Saudi football might be his only realistic outlets, but for a young man who clearly enjoys a cosmopolitan lifestyle and can play top quality football when fully motivated, that would be a shame.

If Villa were to buy him it should only happen on the basis that both his transfer fee and wages were reasonable enough to allow us to sell him on if he became disenchanted with PL football (and Birmingham) in a couple of years time. He's still only 24, so with the right financial structure he would become more of an asset than a fiscal liability.

That’s fine to say but what are those figures? £30 million and 90k/week?

Who’s paying £50 million for a 26/27 yo Felix on over £125k/week who hasn’t worked out here at Villa?

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54 minutes ago, Jas10 said:

All I’ve seen so far, regarding wages, is that we don’t have capacity on our wage bill/budget. That’s hardly surprising with some of the high earners we have and the numbers in the squad - we still need to complete sales.

Diaby is almost gone/done, Duran on the way… Digne and/or Moreno to go, must get rid of the Donk (stupid wage too, overpaid).

By the looks of it we are really trying for Felix.  We can’t be too far away from being able to agree a deal  in terms of differences of money between what we are offering and what he wants otherwise it wouldn’t have gone on this long.  Whether it closes is a different matter but it seems we can’t be that far apart if discussions are still continuing because if the monies were two far apart both parties would’ve walked away by now and we would be targeting another player.  Although this is my opinion based on the ongoing rumours.

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1 hour ago, Tom13 said:

The only one of those that was signed by Emery was Duran, and rumour was we were already tracking him anyway. And Duran is more than capable, just a bad attitude. It was a risk, one which we're very likely to make money on.

This is very different. Would Unai have got starry eyed and signed his mate Coutinho? Very doubtful, cos he's an adult that actually knows his stuff.

Not saying he didn’t approve of or accept it, but Duran was more of a Lange signing than an Unai one. His first “proper” signing was Moreno.

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1 minute ago, nick76 said:

By the looks of it we are really trying for Felix.  We can’t be too far away from being able to agree a deal  in terms of differences of money between what we are offering and what he wants otherwise it wouldn’t have gone on this long.  Whether it closes is a different matter but it seems we can’t be that far apart if discussions are still continuing because if the monies were two far apart both parties would’ve walked away by now and we would be targeting another player.  Although this is my opinion based on the ongoing rumours.

Monchi would be wise to test their resolve and try n force them to lower their demands… there is a desperation to move him on before the end of this month, if not this week. Don’t want to see each other’s faces again 😆

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1 hour ago, lapal_fan said:

If Felix can't be arsed at Atheltico or Barça, he definitely won't be arsed at Villa.

Forget and let it go.

What made you think he couldn’t be asked there?

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1 minute ago, Jas10 said:

Monchi would be wise to test their resolve and try n force them to lower their demands… there is a desperation to move him on before the end of this month, if not this week. Don’t want to see each other’s faces again 😆

Well he’s supposed to turn back up for preseason training on Saturday 27th July at A.Madrid so you would think something would happen soon given the attitude of Felix and A.Madrid to each other.

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49 minutes ago, KangarooVillan said:

 

Who’s paying £50 million for a 26/27 yo Felix on over £125k/week who hasn’t worked out here at Villa?

I haven't got a clue about company accounts, but hypothetically if Felix signed for us for £50 million and had a £125,000 per week contract, if he or the club were unhappy after two years at the age of 26 if we sold him on for (say) £35 million, that would seem to be the equivalent of having loaned a potentially top star footballer for £7.5 million per season, while paying a manageable salary. That may well be seen by our club as a very reasonable use of our resources.

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