lexicon Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: People were saying he is past it after Barcelona days People say a lot of things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 23 Author Share Posted July 23 46 minutes ago, Farlz said: Felix was not good at Barca or Chelsea, not at all. Barca fans can’t stand the way he is on the pitch, comes across as arrogant and is hugely inconsistent. He had somewhat decent spells while at Atleti but nothing worth what they paid. He’d be a no bigger signing than Moussa Diaby last summer. The hype for him I just find mad. He was Chelsea’s best player the game we played against them at Stamford Bridge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AA_786 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Don't think we'll all agree on this one. We're throwing around stats and highlighting how he's not been used correctly (fair point) but the reality is, despite being a hugely talented player, there isn't a stampede for his signature because he has consistently underperformed for spells of his career. He's also judged harsher because he was transferred for the sum of money he was. Now that signing was ludicrous at the time and in part Athleti showing they could compete but nevertheless he hasn't given them value for money. Emery may get a tune out of him but I just don't think we need him (compared to a RCB or CF) and I'd prefer to spend money elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 11 minutes ago, duke313 said: Probably because he was playing for Barcelona and not West Ham or Crystal Palace. The stats in that graph are per 90, so minutes played is irrelevant. Yeah but in that case Felix is more likely coming in against more tired teams or teams chasing the game while Gordon and Bowen are playing teams at peak fitness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villarule123 Posted July 23 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 23 It amazes me that people still can't trust our elite manager with players he wants, even after he's made McGinn, Watkins etc look like world beaters. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieVillan Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Would be a huge signing and statement of intent. The kind of signing which Man Utd, City, Liverpool or Chelsea would make, but probably not even Arsenal and Spurs with their operating models would invest heavily in someone like Felix. Yes it would be a risk, and it would be a departure from what we have done in the market for the last 18 months, but I also think it would show that we are taking the Champions League, and the Premier League seriously. Assuming this would be funded by the sales or Diaby and Duran, there is a couple of issues - 1) it will smash the wage structure, so you would imagine Martinez, Watkins and the other key players that have got us where we are might raise some eyebrows. Although I am sure they would like the signing nonetheless and direction of travel. 2) he is not a striker in the mould of Watkins, he is a number 10. And with this level of investment you would imagine he is going to play all the big games, so some people will miss out (McGinn, Teilemans etc). If we go for Felix and do not replace Duran directly, while we seem to be incredibly stacked in midfield, we are a Watkins injury away from Rogers being up front (which may be the plan), or Archer or Dobbin. Perhaps this is growing pains. A calculated risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) 11 minutes ago, villarule123 said: It amazes me that people still can't trust our elite manager with players he wants, even after he's made McGinn, Watkins etc look like world beaters. Elite managers have signed duds in the past. How much Klopp spend on Nunez? As great as Unai is it doesnt mean it will all be great Edited July 23 by Zatman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tomaszk Posted July 23 Popular Post Share Posted July 23 2 minutes ago, Zatman said: As great as Unai is it doesnt it will all be great Wash your whore mouth out. 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 5 minutes ago, GeordieVillan said: Would be a huge signing and statement of intent. The kind of signing which Man Utd, City, Liverpool or Chelsea would make, but probably not even Arsenal and Spurs with their operating models would invest heavily in someone like Felix. Yes it would be a risk, and it would be a departure from what we have done in the market for the last 18 months, but I also think it would show that we are taking the Champions League, and the Premier League seriously. Assuming this would be funded by the sales or Diaby and Duran, there is a couple of issues - 1) it will smash the wage structure, so you would imagine Martinez, Watkins and the other key players that have got us where we are might raise some eyebrows. Although I am sure they would like the signing nonetheless and direction of travel. 2) he is not a striker in the mould of Watkins, he is a number 10. And with this level of investment you would imagine he is going to play all the big games, so some people will miss out (McGinn, Teilemans etc). If we go for Felix and do not replace Duran directly, while we seem to be incredibly stacked in midfield, we are a Watkins injury away from Rogers being up front (which may be the plan), or Archer or Dobbin. Perhaps this is growing pains. A calculated risk. They are different players but this is a carbon copy of the Coutinho defence when he signed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I really don't want this signing. But if it happens I hope Unai works his magic, there's an incredible player hidden in there... somewhere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 If he could fulfil his potential here it would be amazing. He isn't broken like Coutinho so that's a start. Anyway I'd still be surprised if it happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 I would trust Emery to get the most out of Felix playing wise, but he’s a brilliant coach - not a psychologist. If we remove Felix’ restless soul from his dream club Barcelona and place him in Birmingham, what are the odds he’ll suddenly settle and be at peace? This looks a lot like when Everton smashed their wage structure to get James Rodriguez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 1 hour ago, Farlz said: The hype for him I just find mad. 1. He's probably really good in FIFA/FM 2. He's a big name 3. He once cost £100m plus 4. He's the type of player that usually washes up at United or Chelsea not Aston Villa. Those are just some of the reasons why people are mad to sign him, for me I'm skeptical. Seems like a better version of Coutinho but would he fit in to our team and want to stay at villa for 4+ years. I think he'll end up at PSG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV82 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Watkins - Félix Rogers - Tielemans - Onana - Bailey Buendia, Philogene, McGinn, Ramsey, Barkley, Kamara, Barrenechea in reserve. That is f***ing filthy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: They are different players but this is a carbon copy of the Coutinho defence when he signed The difference is one player was wanted by a charlatan, the other is wanted one of the best managers in the world. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted July 23 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23 4 minutes ago, AV82 said: Watkins - Félix Rogers - Tielemans - Onana - Bailey Buendia, Philogene, McGinn, Ramsey, Barkley, Kamara, Barrenechea in reserve. That is f***ing filthy. Seeing it written down like that is insane. That level of depth has been unheard of throughout my Villa supporting lifetime. How the hell do we keep that list of players happy? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted July 23 VT Supporter Share Posted July 23 This actually happening, **** I love being a Villa fan!! I'm not a fan but happily anticipate being proved wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 (edited) Felix could be our Maradona at Napoli signing. And fire us to the PL Title. Laugh all you want. But I'm believer mate. Edited July 23 by Pongo Waring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 46 minutes ago, Zatman said: Has he consistently played at a higher level? The Bundesliga is probably the same level as La Liga maybe better when take out Barca/Real and Bayern from the respective leagues Yes - Felix has been playing in the Champions League and internationally for Portugal for almost the entirely of his “proper” career, Diaby just hasn’t. And, as I said, Diaby felt like a really big signing for us. Felix would be another step up. I can’t actually remember us signing that calibre of player before, let alone one that isn’t even near their peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CarryOnVilla Posted July 23 Popular Post Share Posted July 23 1 minute ago, Pongo Waring said: Felix could be our Maradona at Napoli signing. And fire us to the PL Title. Laugh all you want. But I'm believer mate. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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