Jas10 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Just now, Mr_Dogg said: If you put in the graft, that could be you! Oi, stop it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I don’t see how we can’t afford him fee wise but it’s the wages - need to cull players who offer us no value for the wages their on - the donk, Carlos, that’s just under. £200k pw selling Duran will save us less than £40k pw so cannot see it hanging on his sale either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anything11 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 This is always how this was going to play out. A Madrid are stuck with him and have made it known the world over they want rid. Villa and Emery like him but he has to fit into how we do things - both the fee and wages etc. For this to work on Villas end it would have to be closer to the end of the window when A Madrid are more desperate and accept the fee we are willing to part with. We don't want another expensive gamble and Monchi is aware of this. The reality is that someone else could swoop in and do a deal much like it appears is happening with Chelsea. There is plenty of time for this to play out either way and for us to move onto other targets if neccessary. I don't think Monchi/Emery or the club are overly stressed about this. Yes it is a good opportunity to pick up an exceptional talent but these things can't be rushed. We are already ahead of schedule getting CL and we need to stick to the plan of steady sustainable progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Something about it never felt right and never really got to exciting stage for me. Despite links am not reall sure we were that interested in a permanent deal, we probably told Atleti if need him off the books deadline day we could do a loan. He is a talent but he seems to make bad career choices clubwise. Also not sure where would have played here positionally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoony Posted August 12 Popular Post Share Posted August 12 27 minutes ago, Zatman said: Something about it never felt right and never really got to exciting stage for me. Despite links am not reall sure we were that interested in a permanent deal, we probably told Atleti if need him off the books deadline day we could do a loan. He is a talent but he seems to make bad career choices clubwise. Also not sure where would have played here positionally Agreed. It just screams: 2024 Felix signs 5 year deal for £60m 2025 Aston Villa flop Felix secures season long loan to Crystal Palace 2026 forgotten man Felix moves to Benfica for £3m + add ons 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 13 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13 (edited) 4 hours ago, PieFacE said: Surely evidence should be the basis for forming an opinion. Saying he's not excited to join Villa holds the same weight as someone else saying he's super excited to join Villa. It's just guess work. But reasoning/logic and emotions and even ethics are also part of opinion-forming evidence, aren't they? 4 hours ago, zak said: Why do you believe him a diva? He's far from alone, tbf. Much of it may be unfair, but I think the basic calculus -- not saying for @TRO as he can speak for himself-- isn't hard to work out: he's an attractive young man, not quite living up to promise on the pitch, and comes across as entitled? Mash it all together, and you get: Diva. Something like that? Again -- not justifying, but I think that's why people think he's a diva. Edited August 13 by Marka Ragnos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted August 13 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13 8 hours ago, Jas10 said: This guy is hilarious But I like how keen he is on him moving to us rather than another club like Chelsea… Has he taken his morning dump yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, fightoffyour said: Has he taken his morning dump yet? Let’s ask him Dinner finished… Dinner on the way out! Edited August 13 by Jas10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 10 hours ago, Zatman said: Something about it never felt right and never really got to exciting stage for me. Despite links am not reall sure we were that interested in a permanent deal, we probably told Atleti if need him off the books deadline day we could do a loan. He is a talent but he seems to make bad career choices clubwise. Also not sure where would have played here positionally even the links, there never seemed anything solid or any kind of momentum feels like a link that VT ran away with 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveburnside Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 65m euros according to one report. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: even the links, there never seemed anything solid or any kind of momentum feels like a link that VT ran away with Fabrizio Romano, who is pretty reliable for what he is, has at least 5 different tweets regarding Felix and Villa. Sure he tweets alot about alot, but id call that solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPAngel Posted August 13 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13 10 hours ago, Zatman said: Something about it never felt right and never really got to exciting stage for me. Despite links am not reall sure we were that interested in a permanent deal, we probably told Atleti if need him off the books deadline day we could do a loan. He is a talent but he seems to make bad career choices clubwise. Also not sure where would have played here positionally I never truly got excited about this one either, as much as I love a big name signing. The times in the past when we've signed players with reputations bigger than our club's have been a bit hit and miss. People hate the Coutinho comparison but his transfer is part of the reason I was iffy on Felix - even if the circumstances (age, potential, wages etc.) are different. It always feels as though there's so much more risk when paying big bucks for a player and we've been burned before in these situations: Danny Ings, Darren Bent, Coutinho, Ross McCormack (who, at the time, was a big signing for us). It's the reason why Man Utd's transfer "strategy" over the past few years is baffling to me. Signing players with huge reputations for massive fees has very rarely benefited them over the past decade (Pogba, Antony, Sancho, Lukaku, Di Maria, Casemiro, Mount, Martial etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 11 minutes ago, zak said: Fabrizio Romano, who is pretty reliable for what he is, has at least 5 different tweets regarding Felix and Villa. Sure he tweets alot about alot, but id call that solid. Romano stocks seem to be diminishing last few windows. Celebrity tap in merchant. Ornstein ranks above now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pez1974 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 11 hours ago, VillaChris said: Same for me and why I've never been keen on Felix as he's a "name." Our success in last five years has been the young and hungry route. Players like McGinn, Luiz, Cash, Konsa, Ollie and even Rogers for last few months of last season. All with minimal experience of top level football when they joined us, all played huge parts in getting us from newly promoted to CL in a relatively short period. Could probably add Emi in that as he only played 20 or so games for Arsenal and 0 for Argentina when he joined us. People used to envy likes of Brighton and Swansea for sourcing that profile of player but we've been doing it successfully for many years even if we've had to pay larger fees. The next step is adding proven players and our record is more 50/50. Had to wait two years for Bailey to hit Leverkusen form, Diaby hit and miss and only lasted a year, Tielemans had a slow start but was good in spells and probably the biggest success has been Pau and still plenty on this forum who don't rate him that highly. Kamara I wouldn't quite put in that status but very good when fit. We had this in the championship years and also the 90s when bigger names caused disruption, Felix does give me Collymore vibes so would rather look at alternatives and interested what we come up with. 100% this I am sure we'd love to sign him - but we don't have unlimited money, so it only works at a certain cost. A big fee plus big wages is a nightmare unless he propels us to the next level. At least with Diaby we managed to make a healthy profit, and he delivered G/A on the pitch. Bringing him in on mad wages might also trigger unhappiness from other players, so it''s his wages, plus increases for the likes of Ollie, Emi, etc. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandally Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 11 hours ago, Jas10 said: This guy is hilarious But I like how keen he is on him moving to us rather than another club like Chelsea… Not buying it unless that Romaro fella reports it, too much bluster around this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 7 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Romano stocks seem to be diminishing last few windows. Celebrity tap in merchant. Ornstein ranks above now I mean that's nearly my point, he's not making up speculation. Someone of some importance is feeding him the info, right? I think that's about as solid speculation as we get these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroy Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 8 hours ago, Marka Ragnos said: But reasoning/logic and emotions and even ethics are also part of opinion-forming evidence, aren't they? He's far from alone, tbf. Much of it may be unfair, but I think the basic calculus -- not saying for @TRO as he can speak for himself-- isn't hard to work out: he's an attractive young man, not quite living up to promise on the pitch, and comes across as entitled? Mash it all together, and you get: Diva. Something like that? Again -- not justifying, but I think that's why people think he's a diva. I wouldn’t say Felix is particularly attractive. He’s ok but he’s no Beckham or Grealish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 minute ago, zak said: I mean that's nearly my point, he's not making up speculation. Someone of some importance is feeding him the info, right? I think that's about as solid speculation as we get these days Which could be agent and we've not reached out at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Pez1974 said: Bringing him in on mad wages might also trigger unhappiness from other players It's certainly a balancing act which some seem oblivious to when a fancy name is linked. Manure have been trash for ages paying stupid wages just because their ancillary revenue is so high. I like Emery and Co for boxing clever. I mean he only bought in Moreno one window and we were 4th or 5th in form table from time he took over from Gerrard until season end. Edited August 13 by Kiwivillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post It's Your Round Posted August 13 Popular Post Share Posted August 13 He reminds me too much of the French lad from The Inbetweeners, and for that reason, I’m out. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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