Kiwivillan Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Again? Battle of Castillon? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Kuwabatake Sanjuro said: I will add that my hopes and dreams were tied up in an Argentina England final with Argentina shithousing a win in the most painful possible way for England to take. The dream would have been Dibu's antics in the final. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Can't really fault the way we played. Small margins. Maybe the winning mentality in the really big games isn't there It is time for Southgate to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom13 said: Terry Connor? John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Once again when it really, really mattered we failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, PaulC said: Can't really fault the way we played. Small margins. Maybe the winning mentality in the really big games isn't there It is time for Southgate to move on Spot on, my man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoobs Posted December 10, 2022 Visiting Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 Where did Kane’s second penalty actually end up………https://t.co/tW1KXKUcQk?ssr=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, The_Steve said: Hence why Spain fluffed it again. Tiki Taka hasn't won them anything since. For me, they were really boring, and got their just desserts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: He would have been comfortably the worst player on the pitch. What people are doing here is taking the fact that England got a free kick in a decent position near the end of the game, and then happily taking for granted that a] the manager would have decided to use one of their 5 substitutions on the worst player in the squad just because he can take a free kick, b] the manager would have fortuitously subbed on Ward-Prowse just in time before that free kick but not so much before that his weakness as a player was exposed against *looks at France's line-up, and c] that he would have been certain to score (he doesn't in fact score every free kick he takes). This is a silly discussion. Dead ball specialists are useful, but not to the expense of the rest of the team. I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on how bad or good he is. I think Henderson is worse than him personally. Free kicks are part of the game, it's not like that free kick was the only one they got. I wasn't even referring to the direct one Rashford took, it would be madness to bring on a player on the off chance you get a direct free kick. I mean more the ones Mount and others were taking on the edge of the box, or corners. It's an obvious tactic from England to capitalize on these situations. Especially late in the game when there are tired fouls. Grealish + JWP or Maddison just makes more sense. It's all moot though, I wouldn't even be playing for set pieces in the first place with this squad. That's a failing on the manager's part, and it's a fool's errand trying to debate what he should have done in his flawed system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 It's all about Emi, for me now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on how bad or good he is. I think Henderson is worse than him personally. Free kicks are part of the game, it's not like that free kick was the only one they got. I wasn't even referring to the direct one Rashford took, it would be madness to bring on a player on the off chance you get a direct free kick. I mean more the ones Mount and others were taking on the edge of the box, or corners. It's an obvious tactic from England to capitalize on these situations. Especially late in the game when there are tired fouls. Grealish + JWP or Maddison just makes more sense. It's all moot though, I wouldn't even be playing for set pieces in the first place with this squad. That's a failing on the manager's part, and it's a fool's errand trying to debate what he should have done in his flawed system. Sorry mate but arguing that we needed JWP in a World Cup quarter final against the holders is a bit mental 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Keyblade said: I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree on how bad or good he is. I think Henderson is worse than him personally. Free kicks are part of the game, it's not like that free kick was the only one they got. I wasn't even referring to the direct one Rashford took, it would be madness to bring on a player on the off chance you get a direct free kick. I mean more the ones Mount and others were taking on the edge of the box, or corners. It's an obvious tactic from England to capitalize on these situations. Especially late in the game when there are tired fouls. Grealish + JWP or Maddison just makes more sense. It's all moot though, I wouldn't even be playing for set pieces in the first place with this squad. That's a failing on the manager's part, and it's a fool's errand trying to debate what he should have done in his flawed system. Henderson should never have been starting. France weren't great, but what came their way, they took with style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: It's all about Emi, for me now. For me it's about wanting him to come home asap . I'd love a stupid Morocco ( Leicester City ) type miracle. Can't see past Argentina / France finale though. Classic handing over of the torch to Mbappe, or a legend signs off with the highest of highs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, sheepyvillian said: Henderson should never have been starting. France weren't great, but what came their way, they took with style. If not Henderson then who? Phillips or Mount... Bellingham nailed his spot for the next 10 years but as I posted in the Southgate thread England need another midfielder in the euro cycle It will be elliot before it will be Ramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Morocco all the way now 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: For me it's about wanting him to come home asap . I'd love a stupid Morocco ( Leicester City ) type miracle. Can't see past Argentina / France finale though. Classic handing over of the torch to Mbappe, or a legend signs off with the highest of highs? I get your point, but the romantic in me prefers the idea of having a World Cup winning goalkeeper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: For me it's about wanting him to come home asap . I'd love a stupid Morocco ( Leicester City ) type miracle. Can't see past Argentina / France finale though. Classic handing over of the torch to Mbappe, or a legend signs off with the highest of highs? Messi puts 5 goals on a plate for martinez who misses them all Mbappe scuffs one in off his left ass cheek Twitter goes nuts over how shit pessi is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Oh well, can't fault their effort. Dodgy ref. Anyone but Argentina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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