burchy Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Need someone of the ilk of Rice and Bellingham to join them in the midfield three. Don’t think it’s Philips or Henderson personally. I don’t think it’s KWP either, perhaps our own Jacob Ramsey might be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Genie said: I’ve always liked the idea of Jose as England manager. I really think he’d win cups with this squad. I'd take him over big nose every day of the week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, sheepyvillian said: I really can't take another tournament with Safegate in charge. Imagine Pep with that lot at his disposal. Ah yes, the guy who notably always wins the crucial match, the guy you turn to when literally nothing other than winning the final of the biggest tournament is good enough, Pep Guardiola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, tinker said: We never had a shot on goal in open play, they either hit the post or was a penalty, clue is "shot on goal" The lloris save from Bellingham? Saka also had a daisy cutter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, It's Your Round said: Ian Wright and Gary Neville both basically saying the same. No surprise though. Jobs for the lads. All pals in the setup etc. Southgate hasn’t won a trophy. It’s that simple. He needs to move over and give someone else a turn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Grealish's biggest contribution 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, The_Steve said: Wilson scores that pen also. Southgate is too reliant on Kane to bail him out. Kane's record speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCU Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Demitri_C said: Maddison guven absolutely zero minutes is baffling. If he isnt fit then why the hell did he go? Appreciate he had an injury coming into the tournament but it’s blasphemy he didn’t get minutes. I’m gutted for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, HanoiVillan said: Ah yes, the guy who notably always wins the crucial match, the guy you turn to when literally nothing other than winning the final of the biggest tournament is good enough, Pep Guardiola. Pep isn't an international manager, same as klopp, wouldn't get enough time to get in the players heads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Delphinho123 said: Jobs for the lads. All pals in the setup etc. Southgate hasn’t won a trophy. It’s that simple. He needs to move over and give someone else a turn. Southgate should do the decent thing and walk. He's the international version of Stevie G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Zhan_Zhuang said: Kane's record speaks for itself. You can't be having Kane playing every position he wants, he's most effective in other ways and we again saw the best and worst. He bottled it against Croatia too. The quality England have shouldn't mean the international team is such a one man show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Maddison guven absolutely zero minutes is baffling. If he isnt fit then why the hell did he go? Public and media pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, tinker said: We never had a shot on goal in open play, they either hit the post or was a penalty, clue is "shot on goal" That can't be right. BBC has us with 5 shots on target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Eni Aluko talks some **** shit. Captain hindsight. Kane is a brilliant penalty taker, he scores penalties, he scored the first and he'll score the next. He's stepped up time and time again and will continue to do so because he's our captain and best player. "I think someone else should have took the second." **** off love. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, villa4europe said: Pep isn't an international manager, same as klopp, wouldn't get enough time to get in the players heads Agreed. They work to set systems and build a team for a few seasons to get to where they want to be. Both excellent at it. International managers aren’t usually top managers. In fact, I honestly don’t know how hard the job is. Surely 90% of it is just picking the right team? Something Southgate fails to do 99% of the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeVillan Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, villa4europe said: The lloris save from Bellingham? Saka also had a daisy cutter Pretty sure Harry Kane had a decent effort that was saved after a deflection too. Still though our style is boring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, The_Steve said: You can't be having Kane playing every position he wants, he's most effective in other ways and we again saw the best and worst. He bottled it against Croatia too. The quality England have shouldn't mean the international team is such a one man show. It's not a one-man show... Saka, Foden, Bellingham all prominent and rightly so. Kane is going to be England's all-time greatest goalscorer. He has my respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, TreeVillan said: Public and media pressure. Yep, why he took Toney and didn't play him too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: He's not shit though? He's a 6.5/10 player with a wicked set piece on him. Not good enough to start a game, but he's hardly Ali Dia is he? England started with Jordan Henderson who is physically shot but still was keeping up. International football is a different kettle of fish. He would have been comfortably the worst player on the pitch. What people are doing here is taking the fact that England got a free kick in a decent position near the end of the game, and then happily taking for granted that a] the manager would have decided to use one of their 5 substitutions on the worst player in the squad just because he can take a free kick, b] the manager would have fortuitously subbed on Ward-Prowse just in time before that free kick but not so much before that his weakness as a player was exposed against *looks at France's line-up, and c] that he would have been certain to score (he doesn't in fact score every free kick he takes). This is a silly discussion. Dead ball specialists are useful, but not to the expense of the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, The_Steve said: You can't be having Kane playing every position he wants, he's most effective in other ways and we again saw the best and worst. He bottled it against Croatia too. The quality England have shouldn't mean the international team is such a one man show. Kane was great tonight to be honest. Yeah he **** up with the penalty. But his performance other than that was very good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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