Lochheads twin Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 what an opportunity missed!. The next round was on BBC Almost a bye to the final! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, MCU said: God that was gutting, when will I learn? I’m sorry but we were miles better than France but again we didn’t step up when it counted. And that’s always England. Frustrating as ****! Sorry but hope Morocco do them over now. Generally agreed - but **** knows why we took off Saka. Literally doing everything good in the attacking third, wins a penalty, completely dominating their left back. Yeah, sack that off. We need to play Sterling who is just recovering from some personal trauma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Keyblade said: Jokes aside, when your main tactic is to play for set pieces, not playing Grealish and not bringing JWP to the tournament just seems kind of counterintuitive. It's not American football, there's no special teams line. James Ward-Prowse is shit; if he was on the field, playing central midfield in this game, he might have scored a free kick from the edge of the area but we would likely have been 4-1 down when he got it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, tinker said: Did we have a shot on goal? When he brought Saka off I was shocked , he was our most effective player. .........Grealish is a far better player than Rashford or Foden, if you don't see this then I'm not interested in your opinion . Our midfield was dreadful, Rice and Henderson never created anything, great at 2 yards passes and some last ditch tackles but we're against players like Griezmann, we need more from the middle Pickford was middle championship level, first goal was poor from his point of view Southgate yet again has failed us, that 3 tournaments in a row where we have failed to even get close to opposition we should be, imho, beating . We had the goal, the penalty miss, the maguire header and the Bellingham shot off the top of my head The southgate belts and braces approach wasn't the problem tonight Grealish doesn't play and his PL and now England performances don't say he's better than those players, thats a cold hard truth, grealish has done nothing in an England shirt and very little in a man City one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, jim said: That was Portugal France did beat England in the group stage to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, MCU said: We really were. Surprised you weren’t nodding off for it? Bit late for you isn’t it? …this is utterly unnecessary though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robby b Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) Just now, mjmooney said: We really weren't. I ageee that we weren't "miles better than France". We were only a little better than them. We were better than them in the possession, shots and shots on target stats... But we weren't better than them in being clinical and powerful with attempts, for example, such as their two goals compared with several of our shots that were weak and easily saved by Lloris. Maybe a bigger amount of shooting practice is needed back on the training pitch?! I give up. (Almost). Edited December 10, 2022 by robby b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Keyblade said: Jokes aside, when your main tactic is to play for set pieces, not playing Grealish and not bringing JWP to the tournament just seems kind of counterintuitive. The modern game more and more relies on teams gaining and committing tactical fouls. When you have players that good at set pieces you have them in the squad. It shouldn’t be any different than bringing on players for the purposes of penalties. A smart manager recognises this. He also had Trippier and Maddison on the bench for set pieces but ignores them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Talldarkandransome said: Why did Sterling get bought on after just getting back from changing his locks, surely what's his face should have got on earlier. Exactly, England are blessed with lots of amazing attacking players, why throw Sterling on when he hasn’t trained all week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, MCU said: We really were. Surprised you weren’t nodding off for it? Bit late for you isn’t it? Wind your neck in mate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, villa4europe said: They're the international Aston Villa And I mean that in all seriousness, the parallels are shocking Yep , Gerrards villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Again? Yes We lost to them in the euros in 2004 2-1. Dont you remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted December 10, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, tinker said: Did we have a shot on goal? When he brought Saka off I was shocked , he was our most effective player. That was his biggest **** up. The one player who he absolutely should not have taken off....... He took off. Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, villa4europe said: We had the goal, the penalty miss, the maguire header and the Bellingham shot off the top of my head The southgate belts and braces approach wasn't the problem tonight Grealish doesn't play and his PL and now England performances don't say he's better than those players, thats a cold hard truth, grealish has done nothing in an England shirt and very little in a man City one I agree.Still brings him on and runs the clock down with 2 minutes left though. I'd love to hear the rationale because it's absolutely bonkers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Agreed second-half England were the better team, all the pressing, better chances... The French had the nous to win, fine margins.... Mbappe was pretty quiet, couple of theatric dives his highlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: It's not American football, there's no special teams line. James Ward-Prowse is shit; if he was on the field, playing central midfield in this game, he might have scored a free kick from the edge of the area but we would likely have been 4-1 down when he got it. Henderson ain’t international quality. JWP would honestly offer more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, jim said: Again? Yes in 2004 in the euros dont you remember? Again it was 2-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, MCU said: God that was gutting, when will I learn? I’m sorry but we were miles better than France but again we didn’t step up when it counted. And that’s always England. Frustrating as ****! Sorry but hope Morocco do them over now. The whole world is rooting for Morocco. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, Davkaus said: I agree.Still brings him on and runs the clock down with 2 minutes left though. I'd love to hear the rationale because it's absolutely bonkers Yeah making that sub in the 96th minute is something different altogether It was **** stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Just now, HanoiVillan said: It's not American football, there's no special teams line. James Ward-Prowse is shit; if he was on the field, playing central midfield in this game, he might have scored a free kick from the edge of the area but we would likely have been 4-1 down when he got it. I don't think for a second that JWP should have started any game at this tournament, but I think he'd have been a decent option off the bench when chasing a game. The better option would have been to bring on Maddison today who is a great set piece taker himself. Instead we were treated to Mason Mount, noted set piece specialist whipping the ball to nowhere in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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