Jas10 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 hours ago, Jas10 said: Asking Unai "do you plan ahead" 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaVilla Posted August 18 Popular Post Share Posted August 18 and so it starts again.... 14 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mantis Posted August 18 Popular Post Share Posted August 18 3 minutes ago, troon_villan said: None of Bruce, Smith or Gerrard in recent times were very good (imo) at utilising subs, however, it's another string to Unai's bow as shown yesterday. 3 subs combing 3 touches for a goal must be pretty rare if not a first ever? Let's face it, for as long as I can remember before Unai we've never had a manager that's tactically above average. Some were around average and many were below average, but none could outsmart the opposition managers with the frequency with which Unai does. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 hour ago, Mantis said: Let's face it, for as long as I can remember before Unai we've never had a manager that's tactically above average. Some were around average and many were below average, but none could outsmart the opposition managers with the frequency with which Unai does. Bang on. T I can’t remember any manager of ours that even came close… he is a blessing. Any decent manager (from my recollection or since the 90s) we had before was more of an effective motivator than a tactician. Unai is complete. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 8 hours ago, MaVilla said: and so it starts again.... This is wonderful to see again... If you don't mind me pointing it out, maybe you noticed already....the red line at the bottom states 2023/25. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: This is wonderful to see again... If you don't mind me pointing it out, maybe you noticed already....the red line at the bottom states 2023/25. good spot, tyvm! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhan_Zhuang Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Just now, MaVilla said: good spot, tyvm! Most welcome and thank you for your hard work. I think most of us love seeing the information! UTV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted August 19 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted August 19 4 hours ago, Zhan_Zhuang said: This is wonderful to see again... If you don't mind me pointing it out, maybe you noticed already....the red line at the bottom states 2023/25. This is a **** disgrace. @MaVilla out 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DakotaVilla Posted August 19 Popular Post Share Posted August 19 11 hours ago, Mantis said: Let's face it, for as long as I can remember before Unai we've never had a manager that's tactically above average. Some were around average and many were below average, but none could outsmart the opposition managers with the frequency with which Unai does. If you broke a successful manager’s attributes into the following: - Tactical Ability; - Motivator and developer of players; - Authentic leadership (defined as the ability to lead all stakeholders of the club - including fans - in one unified direction) It’s clear that Emery is elite even amongst world class managers on all measures. He’s a triple threat. Give him a contract for life right now. We’ve had some decent managers in the past but no one even comes close to Emery. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinRichardsonsMoustache Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 12 minutes ago, DakotaVilla said: If you broke a successful manager’s attributes into the following: - Tactical Ability; - Motivator and developer of players; - Authentic leadership (defined as the ability to lead all stakeholders of the club - including fans - in one unified direction) It’s clear that Emery is elite even amongst world class managers on all measures. He’s a triple threat. Give him a contract for life right now. We’ve had some decent managers in the past but no one even comes close to Emery. This is such a well expressed post. It made me think: does he have any meaningful weaknesses as a coach? I mean, last season it looked like he was slow to make subs, but I think that might have been a reflection of his limited options rather than a flaw. With a stronger bench on Saturday, he was able to make those changes that ultimately made a difference to the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, DakotaVilla said: If you broke a successful manager’s attributes into the following: - Tactical Ability; - Motivator and developer of players; - Authentic leadership (defined as the ability to lead all stakeholders of the club - including fans - in one unified direction) It’s clear that Emery is elite even amongst world class managers on all measures. He’s a triple threat. Give him a contract for life right now. We’ve had some decent managers in the past but no one even comes close to Emery. Yeah, this is a great way of breaking it down. Smith was example was very good at leadership and motivating but poor with tactics. To use an opposite example, Houllier was very good at tactics but pretty poor with motivating and leadership. Slippy was of course crap at all three. Emery on the other hand excels at all of them. He doesn't really have any real weaknesses at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 6 hours ago, Pinebro said: I think they were afraid to make too many subs in fear of things going wrong and losing their job In fairness none of our previous managers have ever really been in a position to bring three players on of the quality of Maatsen, Ramsey, and Duran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 1 hour ago, DakotaVilla said: If you broke a successful manager’s attributes into the following: - Tactical Ability; - Motivator and developer of players; - Authentic leadership (defined as the ability to lead all stakeholders of the club - including fans - in one unified direction) It’s clear that Emery is elite even amongst world class managers on all measures. He’s a triple threat. Give him a contract for life right now. We’ve had some decent managers in the past but no one even comes close to Emery. Sorry to be that guy.... But is it? I think the problem with managers is they all have different skill sets, there's far more than just 3 and even then with those 3 there are then going to be sub categories Motivator of players - this is the main one, I would say emery has a skillset that is very particular to clubs like us, like Sevilla, like Villarreal, doesn't necessarily lend itself to arsenal and psg, because he is class he can make those teams better and win things at the likes of PSG, he would win things at Madrid too should that ever happen, but what sets him apart is what he can do with us You see poorer managers get "bigger" jobs, poch at Chelsea tuchel at Bayern pick anyone you want at utd and they don't have the skillset to turn those clubs around, I think when you hit the very very top table the players are of a different mentality and not always in a good way, this whole notion that anyone could do what pep can do isn't true I don't think unai could do what pep can do, it's a different skill, look at what bielsa did at Leeds and how he was painted as world class (!) every time the guy stepped up a level he failed because better players didn't buy in yo him, he will never ever get a top table clubs, his style doesn't work Said many times before him and us are a match made in heaven and he should stay here forever, he can do things here that I don't think he could do anywhere else, we are as good for him as he is for us 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Get voting Villa fans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 27 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Sorry to be that guy.... But is it? I think the problem with managers is they all have different skill sets, there's far more than just 3 and even then with those 3 there are then going to be sub categories Motivator of players - this is the main one, I would say emery has a skillset that is very particular to clubs like us, like Sevilla, like Villarreal, doesn't necessarily lend itself to arsenal and psg, because he is class he can make those teams better and win things at the likes of PSG, he would win things at Madrid too should that ever happen, but what sets him apart is what he can do with us You see poorer managers get "bigger" jobs, poch at Chelsea tuchel at Bayern pick anyone you want at utd and they don't have the skillset to turn those clubs around, I think when you hit the very very top table the players are of a different mentality and not always in a good way, this whole notion that anyone could do what pep can do isn't true I don't think unai could do what pep can do, it's a different skill, look at what bielsa did at Leeds and how he was painted as world class (!) every time the guy stepped up a level he failed because better players didn't buy in yo him, he will never ever get a top table clubs, his style doesn't work Said many times before him and us are a match made in heaven and he should stay here forever, he can do things here that I don't think he could do anywhere else, we are as good for him as he is for us It's the difference between starting at a lesser club and making them better versus going to an already elite club and trying to kick on. Everything takes time and the one thing that modern football is less and less about is time. I actually think Arsenal learnt their lesson with Emery and decided to stick with Arteta when it looked for all the world as if he'd be sacked - now they're reaping the rewards (to some extent). The difference with us is that a] Emery replaced Gerrard which is so easy to do () and b] the improvement has been far quicker than anyone could have imagined. IF we developed into a "massive club" (I know, I know, we already are) under Emery and he stayed here, I don't think he'd have a problem with the players et al because they'd be his. Everything is geared around him and, as he's been burnt elsewhere before, I actually don't think he'd want to move on unless pushed. Pretty unreal for us, really, and quite similar with Martinez from a playing standpoint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The_Steve Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 4 hours ago, Pongo Waring said: Get voting Villa fans It’s hilarious how much he lives in their heads rent free 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 19 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19 4 hours ago, MaVilla said: Weird video to be honest. Appears to be about Emery but is instead 6 minutes of discussion about West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 8 hours ago, Pongo Waring said: Get voting Villa fans Also hilarious that Emery is leading the vote so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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