duke313 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 At least sacking Gerrard now before the WC means no Southgate. We can all be happy with that regardless who we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted October 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Indigo said: "Statement" signings just feels very 10 years ago or something. Or 12 months ago in our case. I'd rather there just being proper due diligence on getting the best coach in rather than flexing muscles to convince people we're "serious". We're regularly getting embarrassed by teams that have just made smart appointments on a footballing level, I'd like us to follow suit if possible. Agreed. Loads of folks were rubbishing the Howe appointment on here. That was a great move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted October 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, TRO said: I don't want to go in to a monolgue....That was great , as was the Cup Final.....but how did it end? He is no longer, with us, for a reason, and he failed to win games above 40%, so his time like many other managers was inconsistent.......we all have a view, I am just offering an alternative one. Some would say, with the personnel of Tammy, Terry, and Jack, a monkey, would have done that, They were better players than we have now, and still, just got over the line, with a freak show, from a substitute Goalkeeper. Look, I am not rubbishing Dean, He was a good guy, and did us proud, but like SG I think he was let down.....did Dean do better, than SG of course he did.....but still let down, IMO. If some of these players, continue, to dish up turgid, displays for the new guy, I would have them gone, in a jiffy. Monkey > Bruce Officially, finally, confirmed by Tro. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted October 21, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Johnnyp said: But you’ll get behind a bloke from sporting in a 3 team league or a bloke from Salzburg in a one team league !!! Have we not seen that film before ? I'll get behind whoever we hire. I got behind managers like Sherwood and Gerrard even though I didn't want them. Anyone we hire deserves their chance and our support. But we have very rich owners, we're told time and time again that they're serious, we want to take Villa up the league, invest for the future, back into europe, be a huge club again, have a playing philosophy, exciting on the pitch etc etc... And then we hire Sean Dyche. It would be a **** joke. Total lack of ambition and just another of the same old managers on the merry go round. We'll be able to look forward to staying up this season and finishing 12th for the forseeable. Great 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 30 minutes ago, calcifer said: No i would not want to leave Brentford, got it pretty good, he would come here and know within 10 mins into his 1st game that members on Villa Talk would be calling for him to go Don't be so bloody ridiculous. We would never give a new manager that long! 3 minutes, tops. And that's only if there is a late kick-off 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Amorim front runner Dyche Rodgers Emery maybe? Probably someone not mentioned Probably out Pochettino and Tuchel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Someone mentioned it above but Amorim gives me the Garde vibes also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OutByEaster? Posted October 21, 2022 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, AshVilla said: Whoever takes this job is on a hiding to nothing. I feel bad for them. Why? A rich, ambitious ownership group prepared to spend money on players, infrastructure and wages - a good support base in the biggest league in the world with a really low starting position and the bones of a decent squad that means it's almost difficult not to show some sort of progress. A job where in four years you can be seen as a manager that developed a club, with a new stand and growth that all gets associated with you and your professional brand - with finishing 7th at any point in a season where you're in place being considered as a success - any manager putting Villa back into any European football will be both feted and loved and there is finance and structure in place to achieve that. Not only that but you have a board that have shown they'll back you in public and a club that's stable and professional in the way it deals with managers. This is a fantastic job. I think the reason the club need a statement appointment is as much commercial as sporting. The appointment of Gerrard was a risk with a pretty clear reward - if he'd have won more games we'd be seen as an ambitious club with a high profile superstar manager heading in the right direction and with the possibility of European football - with a successful Gerrard, our shirt sponsorship would be worth £30m a season. Appointing for example, Dyche (as good a coach as he is) would send the message that Villa are team that are happy to stick around, that will float just above the relegation battle and make up the numbers - no brand wants to be associated with that, and it's definitely not what the owners came for - I think they'll be looking for a signing that re-iterates the message that we're a proposition worth backing - that there's value in Villa and that we're ambitious and progressive. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted October 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2022 Who’s this Amorim chap then? Is he any good, or is he another young unproven manager? That is a bit worrying if so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nick76 Posted October 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Talldarkandransome said: Never heard of Amorim, dont know anything about him. Can he coach or does he have a tribe of other folk to do that for him Plays for Newcastle upfront doesn’t he? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, Stevo985 said: I'll get behind whoever we hire. I got behind managers like Sherwood and Gerrard 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Just now, alreadyexists said: Who’s this Amorim chap then? Is he any good, or is he another young unproven manager? That is a bit worrying if so Feels like the current “it” manager that will be out of fashion in six months time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Amorim has won the Taca De Liga 3 times!!! Sign him up. Edited October 21, 2022 by Vive_La_Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) We aren't going to sack Gerrard because of how poor we were doing, barely above the relegation zone, to only then go and appoint Dyche another manager who was sacked just earlier this year because of how poor Burnley were doing and looking in danger of going down. It doesn't make sense, and isn't going to happen. Edited October 21, 2022 by useless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 It’s such a hard decision to make, we need someone who will settle the club, come with solid PL experience, get the players respect, get the fans back on side but then be able to take us from lower table to top end in the next couple of seasons. AND someone who wants to come here. Dyche could do a job, but feel like Coutinho, Emi etc would be off fairly quick and wouldn’t be able to take us to that top level. Amorim? Feel like it’d be too risky, likely a good manager with good ideas but could he get the players onboard? I could see the thinking in Gerrard but it was a big gamble, now we need as close to a ‘sure thing’ as we can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted October 21, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Sulberto21 said: Someone mentioned it above but Amorim gives me the Garde vibes also. That was me. I don't know why. Just based on a profile of success in a foreign league over a relatively short period, and limited experience with multiple clubs. He might be great, I don't know, but I'm getting the heebie geebies a bit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robtaylor200 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 minute ago, OutByEaster? said: Why? A rich, ambitious ownership group prepared to spend money on players, infrastructure and wages - a good support base in the biggest league in the world with a really low starting position and the bones of a decent squad that means it's almost difficult not to show some sort of progress. A job where in four years you can be seen as a manager that developed a club, with a new stand and growth that all gets associated with you and your professional brand - with finishing 7th at any point in a season where you're in place being considered as a success - any manager putting Villa back into any European football will be both feted and loved and there is finance and structure in place to achieve that. Not only that but you have a board that have shown they'll back you in public and a club that's stable and professional in the way it deals with managers. This is a fantastic job. I think the reason the club need a statement appointment is as much commercial as sporting. The appointment of Gerrard was a risk with a pretty clear reward - if he'd have won more games we'd be seen as an ambitious club with a high profile superstar manager heading in the right direction and with the possibility of European football - with a successful Gerrard, our shirt sponsorship would be worth £30m a season. Appointing for example, Dyche (as good a coach as he is) would send the message that Villa are team that are happy to stick around, that will float just above the relegation battle and make up the numbers - no brand wants to be associated with that, and it's definitely not what the owners came for - I think they'll be looking for a signing that re-iterates the message that we're a proposition worth backing - that there's value in Villa and that we're ambitious and progressive. Wow . Sold it to me when do I start. Agree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Whoever we appoint next, I just hope we can bring back that signature Lange smile. Edited October 21, 2022 by The_Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted October 21, 2022 Moderator Share Posted October 21, 2022 I don't know much about Amorim at all, but I find his name has too many M's in it and makes me uncomfortable to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinebro Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Dyche would be a horrific appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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