Made In Aston Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) I've got a feeling we will beat Leicester and Southampton, as Gerrard is temporarily moving away from his flawed system. It will be like his early days, before he tried to coach with his ridiculous tactics. Although I'll be happy with the results, this will be a bad situation for the club as he will probably keep his job for a while. Gerrard has shown he is tactically incompetent and a poor man manager. Falls out with some players, picks his favourites instead of picking players on form and doesn't reward good performances from the bench with starts in the next game and vice versa. If he keeps his job for a while we will miss out on some decent managers and may end up with someone like Southgate - a really typical Purslow type appointment. Edited September 8, 2022 by Made In Aston 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 Probably could have got Potter if we hadn't dithered. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: I've got a feeling we will beat Leicester and Southampton, as Gerrard is temporarily moving away from his flawed system. It will be like his early days, before he tried to coach with his ridiculous tactics. Although I'll be happy with the results, this will be a bad situation for the club as he will probably keep his job for a while. Gerrard has shown he is tactically incompetent and a poor man manager. Falls out with some players, picks his favourites instead of picking players on form and doesn't reward good performances from the bench with starts in the next game and vice versa. If he keeps his job for a while we will miss out on some decent managers and may end up with someone like Southgate - a really typical Purslow type appointment. We are not going to end up with Southgate, he hates us for some reason, and even if he is sacked from the England job due to a poor World Cup he'll think the Villa job is beneath him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Just now, mjmooney said: Probably could have got Potter if we hadn't dithered. I'm not so sure. It was reported that the owners had planned to get rid of Tuchel for a while. The quickness of the Potter appointment seems to suggest there has been off-the-record discussions with him for a few weeks at least. I don't think we would have stood a chance, even with an earlier move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, messi11 said: Exactly missed our chance with Potter. Need more ruthless owners. Gerrard should of gone a week ago missed out on a manager with a 30% win ratio......I'm glad they are in charge. time will tell, if that is relevant. Maybe the Potter myth, turns out to be reality....with better players, it might do. Edited September 8, 2022 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Made In Aston said: I'm not so sure. It was reported that the owners had planned to get rid of Tuchel for a while. The quickness of the Potter appointment seems to suggest there has been off-the-record discussions with him for a few weeks at least. I don't think we would have stood a chance, even with an earlier move. Potter should have been the first choice when we sacked Smith. I’m pretty sure we would have gotten him then. Maybe we can get Chelsea’s second choice; Ruben Amorim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, TRO said: missed out on a manager with a 30% win ratio......I'm glad they are in charge. time will tell, if that is relevant. Maybe the Potter myth, turns out to be reality....with better players, it might do. What’s the potter myth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: What’s the potter myth? The draw specialist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 minute ago, TRO said: The draw specialist. https://totalfootballanalysis.com/head-coach-analysis/graham-potter-brighton-and-hove-albion-202122-tactical-analysis-tacticshttps://themastermindsite.com/2021/12/30/graham-potter-brighton-hove-albion-tactical-analysis-2021-22/ We’ve missed out, maybe he was never in reach but we should have got him when we sacked smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvilla28 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 47 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: That's why I don't think Purslow would hire him. He doesn't seem to employ anyone who will challenge him in a confrontational manner. Well that's no good like we all say Purslow should keep out of football related stuff let the manager do what's he hired for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, viivvaa66 said: Potter should have been the first choice when we sacked Smith. I’m pretty sure we would have gotten him then. Maybe we can get Chelsea’s second choice; Ruben Amorim. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. At the time, Potter was on the back of a 15th and 16th finishes. Although he was playing attractive football, it wasn't winning football. That said I don't think Purslow even considered him as Gerrard was always his preferred choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, TRO said: The draw specialist. We could do with drawing some more games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Pochettino is about ten times more realistic than Tuchel for where they are in their current managerial careers. I wonder if we've already sounded out Poch's agent and he's said he's not interested at this moment so we're giving Gerrard until the international break. Minds can be changed after a few months. Spurs wanted Conte last summer, he rejected them and they employed Nuno but he suddenly changed his mind when Man. United weren't interested in appointing him. I think it would be a bit sobering for Poch seeing Chelsea overlooking him in favour of domestic manager so he's going to have to set his sights lower down a league table now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: Hindsight is a wonderful thing. At the time, Potter was on the back of a 15th and 16th finishes. Although he was playing attractive football, it wasn't winning football. That said I don't think Purslow even considered him as Gerrard was always his preferred choice. At the time, my preferred choice was Potter, so no hindsight about it. I also thought that Gerrard was to inexperienced and not really achieved anything, especially in Europe. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKP90 Posted September 8, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 8, 2022 Personally I think that Aston Villa as it is currently is unmanageable. No way is anyone who comes in going to be given the time to build a team to challenge the top 6. Expectations are too high. We've already shown prospective candidates that incremental improvement (DS) is not acceptable. Other than the Leicester freak show, when was the last time a team came from the lower reaches of the Prem and rapidly ascended into the top 6. It takes years of prep work and development. Even Man City who spent obscene amounts took a few years to get there, and we will not be doing that no matter what manager gets in. I think that perhaps Gerrard has run his course, but people expecting, no demanding that a replacement come in and suddenly put us up with Arsenal and Liverpool are just dreaming. It will never happen. And then another sacking, another rebuild, and on and on until we expend all resources and end up back where we were under Lerner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) It’s all about timing in a few months the timing will be wrong. Pochettino is at the right time of his career to take over at Villa and build. The kudos and prestige Villa will gain from that is incredible. Edit : he might have said no if we put out polite feelers. We just don’t know. Edited September 8, 2022 by Sulberto21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Poch or tuchel rither one is a massive upgrade on what we currently have 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 39 minutes ago, IrishVilla10 said: https://totalfootballanalysis.com/head-coach-analysis/graham-potter-brighton-and-hove-albion-202122-tactical-analysis-tacticshttps://themastermindsite.com/2021/12/30/graham-potter-brighton-hove-albion-tactical-analysis-2021-22/ We’ve missed out, maybe he was never in reach but we should have got him when we sacked smith I think we would have, if it wasn't for the £16m buyout clause in his contract that it would have cost us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishVilla10 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, HKP90 said: Personally I think that Aston Villa as it is currently is unmanageable. No way is anyone who comes in going to be given the time to build a team to challenge the top 6. Expectations are too high. We've already shown prospective candidates that incremental improvement (DS) is not acceptable. Other than the Leicester freak show, when was the last time a team came from the lower reaches of the Prem and rapidly ascended into the top 6. It takes years of prep work and development. Even Man City who spent obscene amounts took a few years to get there, and we will not be doing that no matter what manager gets in. I think that perhaps Gerrard has run his course, but people expecting, no demanding that a replacement come in and suddenly put us up with Arsenal and Liverpool are just dreaming. It will never happen. And then another sacking, another rebuild, and on and on until we expend all resources and end up back where we were under Lerner. West Ham showed with good coaching you can get European football, they went from relegation candidates to Europa in one season. I don’t want Gerrard, but I don’t expect us to be arsenal or Liverpool. What I do think it’s fair to expect is for us to be a competitive team on a weekly basis, I think that’s completely fair. And we’ve had ten months without that. Just to add, on your last point. I’ve recently been wondering if a fear of past times prevents some of our fans from expecting much from the club. Almost like be happy with what we’ve got because remember what happened before. I’m not expecting us to be a champions league club, but I think we’ve spent enough money and been back in the league long enough now to expect more than what we’re getting. Edited September 8, 2022 by IrishVilla10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tomaszk Posted September 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, TRO said: missed out on a manager with a 30% win ratio......I'm glad they are in charge. time will tell, if that is relevant. Maybe the Potter myth, turns out to be reality....with better players, it might do. How does your brain work sticking up for managers like Gerrard and Bruce...and tearing down managers like Potter and Smith. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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