ender4 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I just read in the Daily Mirror newspaper that Newcastle have only finished in the top half of the PremierLeague 4 times in the last 11 years!! :shock: I never realised they were that rubbish. I thought i must share this news with you all, and at the same i time i seem to have started a Newcastle thread (i don't think there is already one open anywhere) Keegan also saying that he is aiming for top 8 finish this season. So my question is: Will they finish in the top half or bottom half this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 At the moment I'd say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Hope not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nath182 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I hope not and think not. Just because they havent sacked that scummy clearing in the woods Barton yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I just read in the Daily Mirror newspaper that Newcastle have only finished in the top half of the PremierLeague 4 times in the last 11 years!! :shock: 2007/08 12th (43 points) 2006/07 13th (43 points) 2005/06 7th (58 points)* 2004/05 14th (44 points) 2003/04 6th (56 points) * 2002/03 3rd (69 points)* 2001/02 4th (71 points)* 2000/01 11th (51 points) 1999/00 11th (52 points) 1998/99 13th (46 points) 1997/98 13th (44 points) On each of those four occasions they have finished above us, but they are the only four occasions Newcastle have finished above us in the last 11 seasons. Newcastle get a hell of a lot of good will from the media. The main reason is that they probably have the best catchment area of any team in England, given that they are a one club city with only one local rival and absolutely no rival clubs north of them to the Scottish border. When Geordie fans ask "what other club would get 52'000 fans a week when their team constantly finishes in lower mid table?" just tell them that any Premier League club with a similar kind of unrivalled catchment area will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 28, 2008 Moderator Share Posted July 28, 2008 I've gone for yes. A defender or 2 will sort out their defence. Taylor will be immense sooner or later; possibly this season. They have a strike force to die for and they have some pretty damn impressive midfielders if they can keep them fit. And their keeper is highly rated even though I'm not a fan. So with Blackburn's collapse (imo) and Newky hitting the ground running, even taking into account Spurts undoubtedly getting back into the top 10, I'd say Newky are a decent bet to follow them above the likes of the shammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieB Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Joey Barton has been released from Strangeways after beating up a teenager last New Years Eve! The CCTV footage shown on the news after the trial had finished was just horrendous...his brother is in jail for Murder...He's obviously got anger issues as it's not the 1st time he's his violent behavior has been a problem. Yet Kevin Keegan is going to welcome him back???!! What message does this send out to younger football fans??... That it's perfectly OK to get steaming drunk and beat someone up..kicking them senseless while they're lying on the ground!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 If Joey Barton was a youth team player Newcastle would have sacked him. If Joey Barton worked in the offices at St James' Newcastle would have sacked him. As he was a £6m signing and only six months into a five year contract at the time of his offence, Newcastle will not sack him. The board would not want to throw away a financial investment like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 28, 2008 Moderator Share Posted July 28, 2008 Veering way off topic there Julie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant-Major Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Newcastle are rubbish - they're fans are almost as deluded as the tossers who support Spurs in that they think they have a divine right to be in the top 5 and winning trophies. Last season Newcastle were lucky they hit a tiny bit of form that pulled them clear of the relegation zone. Now they have got rid of a few players and signed next to no one - so they have a paper thin squad of has beens, youngsters and journey men - have they got a smaller squad than us?!? Unless they bring in 6 or so players I can see them struggling at the foot of the table - and I'll be laughing by socks off when they are getting slammed 5 and 6 nil week in, week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 28, 2008 VT Supporter Share Posted July 28, 2008 Man Utd Arsenal Chelsea Liverpool Villa Everton Man City Pompey Blackburn West Ham Tottenham They'll all finish above the toon. Plus Boro, Sunderland and Wigan are capable of finishing above them, imo, but probably won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarevolution2007 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I put yes... thin their attacking options in the premiership can only be rivalled by the top 4 and spurs and possibly ours... their defence on the other hand i would rate as badly as Boro's and i can see Sunderland doing really well this season... but still believe they have what it takes to make it into top 10 this year, probably just scrape it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastleBromVilla Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 No, not with the squad they've currently got. Thread bare and full of injury prone and inconsistant players, basically shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSufferingVilla Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Newcastle over the last 10 years: BIG Squad BIG Spending BIG Name players So many on here are bitching that MON hasn't delivered on the 3 qualities above, seems such things are more important to some fans than actual results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acwilliams Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Kevin Keegan is the only good thing about Newcastle, and he's not even that good - he's just a likeable bloke. So no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I've gone for yes. Afterall they have got the best fans in the country :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasGasGas Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 The main reason is that they probably have the best catchment area of any team in England, given that they are a one club city with only one local rival and absolutely no rival clubs north of them to the Scottish border. I thought that slightly to the south, Sunderland are actually quite near Newcastle? And if you move further down south there is Middlesborough? I thought that it was Middlesborough that had no other clubs near them rather than Newcastle, unless clubs from lower leagues are included, then I wouldn't be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Sunderland is slightly south, hence: given that they are a one club city with only one local rival Its a good 60 miles from Newcastle to the Scottish border. No other clubs in that direction. Middlesbrough isnt a local rival, its a shitty small industrial town a good hours drive away. Do you consider Northampton or Milton Keynes local to Birmingham? If not, then Middlesbrough isnt local to Newcastle. Newcastle have a catchment area that is easily the best of any club in England. The only club that is comparable is Sunderland, and given all the regional media in the North East is based in Newcastle then the people on the satellite towns will be drawn to the Geordies. You can include satellite towns in North Yorkshire on that list, especially with the demise of the likes of Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday. Newcastle are a big club, but its more to do with the massive support they can call on due to their location and lack of local rivals than any on pitch success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasGasGas Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 2007/08 12th (43 points) 2006/07 13th (43 points) 2005/06 7th (58 points)* 2004/05 14th (44 points) 2003/04 6th (56 points) * 2002/03 3rd (69 points)* 2001/02 4th (71 points)* 2000/01 11th (51 points) 1999/00 11th (52 points) 1998/99 13th (46 points) 1997/98 13th (44 points) On each of those four occasions they have finished above us, but they are the only four occasions Newcastle have finished above us in the last 11 seasons. In their first four seasons though they finished above us in all the 4 seasons and had a couple of runners up finishes. Also when we finish above them the difference tends to be slight (except last season when the gap was quite large) but when they finish above us there were a couple of times where the gap was huge (over 20 points difference). Which explains why we are merely 5 points above them in the all time premiership table. Despite having a season's worth of points' advantage the lead was eaten into and overtaken during the mess of the GT / DOL era. Fortunately MON came in and we reeled them back in and retook the lead! Wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasGasGas Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Sunderland is slightly south, hence: given that they are a one club city with only one local rival Its a good 60 miles from Newcastle to the Scottish border. No other clubs in that direction. Middlesbrough isnt a local rival, its a shitty small industrial town a good hours drive away. Do you consider Northampton or Milton Keynes local to Birmingham? If not, then Middlesbrough isnt local to Newcastle. Newcastle have a catchment area that is easily the best of any club in England. The only club that is comparable is Sunderland, and given all the regional media in the North East is based in Newcastle then the people on the satellite towns will be drawn to the Geordies. You can include satellite towns in North Yorkshire on that list, especially with the demise of the likes of Leeds and Sheffield Wednesday. Newcastle are a big club, but its more to do with the massive support they can call on due to their location and lack of local rivals than any on pitch success. Sorry I'm not from England so I dun actually know where Northhampton and MK lie. So seeing that Sunderland have a surprisingly large stadium of 49000 despite them being shit, is it also due to them having similar conditions (location wise) to Newcastle as well? Also is Sunderland local to Newcastle? Or does only Newcastle exist in the city/county/whatever it's called/area of Newcastle and ditto for Sunderland, hence their support? And why then does Middlesborough not enjoy similar support then? Is it because there ARE other clubs in the Middlesborough city/area or is it because they are simply a small shitty town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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