ferguson1 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Southgate is going to need a decent World Cup to hold onto his job now. It’s possible he can still, I remember Bobby Robson was in trouble going into Italia 90 and look how that turned out. He needs to just play players in their natural position and go back to some basics. He may recover, he may not. If not, I expect Potter or Howe will be favourites in January to take over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: He needs to **** off back to Middlesbrough Don't care about international football but this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: 100%. But he was above criticism for years. Don't know what people were watching. Two lucky runs at two tournaments, that's what they were watching. Talk about a false sense of security. If he's got any class he'll have the balls and deceny to say, "Im walking away, I'm afraid I'm way out of my depth", but alas, he won't, and that will be that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, a m ole said: I remember you were one of the few giving him the benefit of the doubt due to the tournament finishes too, he’s losing even the most positive. Yeah, I mean I think it was the right and sensible thing to do to keep going in to this World Cup, and I'm not fully convinced changing horses would do much, certainly at this point, but I will concede that you could make an argument for having done it at the start of the summer. Unfortunately after a pretty good and effective qualifying campaign performances have gone down the drain at the worst possible time. The only positive I can wring from this is that Southgate's England have generally performed best when everyone has given up hope, and performed worst when people were expecting them to win, so maybe there will be a kind of we're-shit-and-we-know-we-are determined togetherness, but I wouldn't advise putting any money on that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Not one of them commentators with the balls to tell it how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted September 23, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted September 23, 2022 Totally forgot they were playing Was Mason magnificent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, sheepyvillian said: Not one of them commentators with the balls to tell it how it is. Slurping the Safegate sphincter? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Can’t stand watching his tactics with a right back at left back and at centre back and having a squad of 6 of them, he probably has the best selection of England players to pick from and still picks that lump maguire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted September 23, 2022 Moderator Share Posted September 23, 2022 I don't seem to recall saying he needs to **** off back to Middlesbrough. 2 minutes ago, rjw63 said: Don't care about international football but this! But I'm not against the idea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Let’s treat this defeat like a regular Villa game? The England players aren’t tall or big enough. They don’t impose themselves physically on the opponents, they are weak and lack stature so keep getting bullied. Other countries are much nastier, have more testosterone and bigger balls. England’s midfield players also have a lack of facial tattoos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, VillaParkAvenue said: Let’s treat this defeat like a regular Villa game? The England players aren’t tall or big enough. They don’t impose themselves physically on the opponents, they are weak and lack stature so keep getting bullied. Other countries are much nastier, have more testosterone and bigger balls. England’s midfield players also have a lack of facial tattoos. And the manager is a fraud. Very much home from home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Boycie, is he really the best centre half in the country? I think we all know the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Yeah, I mean I think it was the right and sensible thing to do to keep going in to this World Cup, and I'm not fully convinced changing horses would do much, certainly at this point, but I will concede that you could make an argument for having done it at the start of the summer. Unfortunately after a pretty good and effective qualifying campaign performances have gone down the drain at the worst possible time. The only positive I can wring from this is that Southgate's England have generally performed best when everyone has given up hope, and performed worst when people were expecting them to win, so maybe there will be a kind of we're-shit-and-we-know-we-are determined togetherness, but I wouldn't advise putting any money on that. They'll just go back to losing in quarter finals now I reckon. That said England gone back to no spark so potential last 16 v Dutch/Senegal would be very tricky match given both can defend and get decent counter attack players so could see that one going to penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 When u have our risk adverse FA and our risk adverse manager trying to play risk adverse football this is the result. Cannot wait to hear him say that we are too open and need to go back to 7 defensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Foden and Grealish must play together. And Bellingham. But with this fraud in charge, I hold no hope whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakemineVanilla Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 The FA obviously have a cunning plan - they haven't got the courage not to go to Qatar, and so they plan to leave as soon as possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just remembered that my boys have got us tickets for Monday. So going to have to be all enthusiatic and grateful when all i will want to do is sing Southgate is a w@@@@r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ferguson1 said: Southgate is going to need a decent World Cup to hold onto his job now. It’s possible he can still, I remember Bobby Robson was in trouble going into Italia 90 and look how that turned out. He needs to just play players in their natural position and go back to some basics. He may recover, he may not. God I hope he doesn't. It's been dire for ages, playing below our potential, and his luck has finally ran out. Edited September 23, 2022 by Tom13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 [insert Southgate /Gerrard comparison comment] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 England: word removed in charge, unlikeable players, shit shirt and the WC being in Qatar. Yay, can't wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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