GlobalVillan Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 hours ago, duke313 said: No europe next season will benefit us in the long run, just look at Newcastle this season. We can make a real push for CL next season with a few ley signings. But we ARE gonna be in Europe and suggesting otherwise is just being negative and pessimistic etc etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted May 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, duke313 said: But if we didn't have the shit start under Gerrard, we wouldn't have sacked him when we did, and wouldn't have Emery when we did (or maybe even at all). And we wouldn't even be in the position we are now. Yeah that’s fine. If the aspiration was to get into Europe, those seven games had more of an impact than the Wolves game. Especially the disparity in the points gained in the reverse fixtures. Against Wolves at home, under Emery, we just about managed a point so a defeat away isn’t as glaring a difference as the results listed previously. If we find ourselves missing out, I know where I’m assigning the blame. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VillaChris Posted May 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, AVTuco said: It was all in our hands. Lose to wolves and now it's not. That was a sad game. It's been fun though. Going back to Everton away and we've now won 9 of our last 13 prem games. Considering the general standard of the league now where likes of Brighton, Fulham and Brentford are capable of producing european quality football that is some achievement. I remember years back posters on here saying they'd prefer to stay down as it was far more exciting winning ten straight in championship against likes of Bolton and Rotherham. Now we're having similar runs and taking out Chelsea and Spurs. Think how bad we got conditioned people to think we'd never ever be a serious force at premier league level again yet it's only taken 3-4 years and I think we could've got here sooner if we hadn't appointed Gerrard. At least Emery coming in has really raised standards in the stands so a good start to next season and the sky really is the limit for us. Edited May 15, 2023 by VillaChris 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, Mark Albrighton said: Yeah that’s fine. If the aspiration was to get into Europe, those seven games had more of an impact than the Wolves game. Especially the disparity in the points gained in the reverse fixtures. Against Wolves at home, under Emery, we just about managed a point so a defeat away isn’t as glaring a difference as the results listed previously. If we find ourselves missing out, I know where I’m assigning the blame. The problem is we gave Gerrard two more months to wreak havoc. We should've sacked him after West Ham. We'd start that season losing to them, Palace and Bournemouth in our first four scoring four goals so all the warning signs were there in August. Perhaps Emery wouldn't have come that early in the season but we'd have won games like Leeds away comfortably with him in charge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lexicon Posted May 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2023 Europe or not, it'll be a lot easier to attract signings with the way we've finished the season in any case. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 3 hours ago, John said: I don't think many of us were expecting Brighton to pick up three points last night, I know Arteta wasn't. It's now going to be a shoot out between Spurs and ourselves for a Conference League place. We both have two tough games left, we are the form side, but they have the advantage with goal difference, following that penalty. In our case, Liverpool will be up for it, as they still have an outside chance of stealing a CL spot. Spurs are at home to Brentford and I don't think that's quite the gimme it would have looked until recently. On the last day, they are at Leeds, who will be fighting for their survival and we will be looking for yet another home win and hoping that Brighton haven't anything left to play for, and won't mind too much, if we do the double over them. I suspect this will go to the last day and I wouldn't want to bet against us. Brentford know a win at Spurs gets them on 54 points and a better GD than Spurs. Draw at home with City and Spurs lose away to Leeds (very realistic if Spurs have lost to Brentford in tottenham) and Brentford end above Spurs. If we lose to Liverpool and Brighton then Brentford are 7th. So Brentford have something to play for. There are 2 games left and a win at Spurs means they have a chance of Europe on last day 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Brentford know a win at Spurs gets them on 54 points and a better GD than Spurs. Draw at home with City and Spurs lose away to Leeds (very realistic if Spurs have lost to Brentford in tottenham) and Brentford end above Spurs. If we lose to Liverpool and Brighton then Brentford are 7th. So Brentford have something to play for. There are 2 games left and a win at Spurs means they have a chance of Europe on last day Yeah Brentford are not out of it yet, plus they will probably be playing a Man City team that have already won the league and with eyes on a possible Champions League final. As we know, Brentford are no mugs at home so will be in their interests to beat Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TDR V2 Posted May 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 15, 2023 I have no idea who will finish where, who will get into whatever European competition but we're involved in it. And that's much better than worrying about getting enough points to avoid relegation 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romavillan Posted May 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Albrighton said: Yeah that’s fine. If the aspiration was to get into Europe, those seven games had more of an impact than the Wolves game. Especially the disparity in the points gained in the reverse fixtures. Against Wolves at home, under Emery, we just about managed a point so a defeat away isn’t as glaring a difference as the results listed previously. If we find ourselves missing out, I know where I’m assigning the blame. Even the most ardent Gerrard supported on here had enough 2 or 3 games before we sacked him, with Emery that's 4 to 6 points. Which would have been enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Wherever we finish we will be stronger next season. If we get into Europe, great its a bonus but if we don't it's still great because we have the right man to take is to the next level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, RichW said: Yeah Brentford are not out of it yet, plus they will probably be playing a Man City team that have already won the league and with eyes on a possible Champions League final. As we know, Brentford are no mugs at home so will be in their interests to beat Spurs Champions League and FA Cup finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, CVByrne said: Champions League and FA Cup finals No idea why I forgot the FA Cup final. Positive I guess this weekend is the Spurs v Brentford game is a 12.30 kick off so the result will be known before kick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Brentford forum is confident they will get a result against both Spurs and City, and we lose to Liverpool would mean if both us and Spurs only pick up 1 point in last game, Brentford would leapfrog both us and SPurs on goal difference. Not an impossible scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, duke313 said: Brentford forum is confident they will get a result against both Spurs and City, and we lose to Liverpool would mean if both us and Spurs only pick up 1 point in last game, Brentford would leapfrog both us and SPurs on goal difference. Not an impossible scenario. The fact Brentford are still even in contention at this stage is nuts. Toney should have been banned weeks ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, duke313 said: Brentford forum is confident they will get a result against both Spurs and City, and we lose to Liverpool would mean if both us and Spurs only pick up 1 point in last game, Brentford would leapfrog both us and SPurs on goal difference. Not an impossible scenario. Remember when us on this forum used to be that delusional but ours was Top 4 and theirs now is Top 7. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, nick76 said: Remember when us on this forum used to be that delusional but ours was Top 4 and theirs now is Top 7. I don't think Brentford are being delusional at all, they can quite realistically beat Spurs and a Man City team who'll already have won the league and be resting players for a possible CL final and FA Cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, duke313 said: I don't think Brentford are being delusional at all, they can quite realistically beat Spurs and a Man City team who'll already have won the league and be resting players for a possible CL final and FA Cup final. I think it’s delusional…even City’s second team are one of the best in the league and will be playing without any pressure and arguably some will be playing hard to get picked for the CL and FA cup final, the likes of Foden, Alvarez, Silva to just now a few of many. Brentford aren’t winning both games imo and both us and Spurs only get 1 point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcifer Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, AshVilla said: The fact Brentford are still even in contention at this stage is nuts. Toney should have been banned weeks ago. This is what sickens me,. he should be serving a big ban but you can guarantee the w@*ker in the waistcoat has told the FA not to punish him.... Come back to Villa park and do your pathetic lulu sign you c@ck womble. Uni will have a gameplan, but its going to be a lot tougher than Spurzz, need a strong Ref....Lets hope it is not Stuart Atwell! Edited May 15, 2023 by calcifer Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 hours ago, The_Steve said: Sad to think it took VAR to potentially help Spurs finish 8th. Imagine if they actually didn’t screw Brighton over. Whats bizarre is demot Gallagher is saying it was a definite penalty. Are we being biased or something? As that looked the most blatent cheating to get a pen from someone notorious for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Whats bizarre is demot Gallagher is saying it was a definite penalty. Are we being biased or something? As that looked the most blatent cheating to get a pen from someone notorious for it Yeah but that ref watch just shows that the ref’s are out of step. Even today the footballers and the question of many decisions were like fans yet Dermot backs almost all of the decisions give or take except the punch incident. There are problems with the rules like handball, penalties and offsides but then we also have major problem with the refs themselves and VAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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