Zatman Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Made In Aston said: I'd forget about top 4 this season, as its so unlikely given the number of games left. We are in a 5-8 mini league and want as many teams to beat Spurs , Brighton and Liverpool as possible. Liverpool is a strange one. I think Klopp wants top 4 or nothing, if some results go against them they will probably tail off the last few games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted April 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, MWARLEY2 said: I am just going to guess that we will get 10 points from the next 5 games. 2 pts per game as we have averaged since Emery came in. 20 games is a big enough sample to lay your hat on it . So where does that leave us ? Dreamland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 42 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Personally, I think we will get 7th, with Brighton having so many games to play will affect them. The last game could be a win-for-Europe kind of match. Tasty. If we are within 3 points of Brighton going into the last game I'd be stunned. Can't see it at all. The key to getting 7th is finishing above Spurs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, Zatman said: Liverpool is a strange one. I think Klopp wants top 4 or nothing, if some results go against them they will probably tail off the last few games I've been saying this the past couple week, if they end up in Europa Conference it will be a complete embarrassment. If top 4 is out the window, there performances will drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, MWARLEY2 said: I am just going to guess that we will get 10 points from the next 5 games. 2 pts per game as we have averaged since Emery came in. 20 games is a big enough sample to lay your hat on it . So where does that leave us ? 8th I'd guess. Simply because of the games in hand the other clubs have. We need 12 points minimum for Europe I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) I think 9 will get us over the line but which 3 wins will be important Edited April 26, 2023 by DJBOB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, duke313 said: I've been saying this the past couple week, if they end up in Europa Conference it will be a complete embarrassment. If top 4 is out the window, there performances will drop. My thinking is more Klopp hates playing football matches unless vs the elite and would rather not play than travel Thursday nights to Azerbaijan or Georgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: Liverpool is a strange one. I think Klopp wants top 4 or nothing, if some results go against them they will probably tail off the last few games Unlikely considering they want to show their strength before a key transfer window for them. And I doubt someone like Klopp would be open to losing games at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: My thinking is more Klopp hates playing football matches unless vs the elite and would rather not play than travel Thursday nights to Azerbaijan or Georgia Correct, the fans don't want it either. They'd take Europa League, but they'd rather finish 8th then 7th I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, duke313 said: Correct, the fans don't want it either. They'd take Europa League, but they'd rather finish 8th then 7th I think. With their run in, I think they’ll get 5th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: If we are within 3 points of Brighton going into the last game I'd be stunned. Can't see it at all. The key to getting 7th is finishing above Spurs. Prepare to be stunned. They can't score and have to play about a quarter of a season in a month. Edited April 26, 2023 by The Fun Factory 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: Prepare to be stunned. They can't score and have to play about a quarter of a season in a month. They score loads. I think they’re one of the highest scorers in the league. Quick check, they’re 6th highest in the league with 54 goals to our 46 and have played 4 less games. Edited April 26, 2023 by WallisFrizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 20 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: If we are within 3 points of Brighton going into the last game I'd be stunned. Can't see it at all. The key to getting 7th is finishing above Spurs. We'll finish above Brighton and Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: 8th I'd guess. Simply because of the games in hand the other clubs have. We need 12 points minimum for Europe I reckon. I think 10 would be plenty. We'd have to have beaten at least one of Liverpool/Brighton/Spurs and drawn with one at worst to get 10 + Spurs and Liverpool have to play each other. Beating Spurs is the real key game for me. Then it's in our hands - we just have to match their results to get 7th. (Obvs better than that would also be acceptable!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted April 26, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted April 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: 8th I'd guess. Simply because of the games in hand the other clubs have. We need 12 points minimum for Europe I reckon. Are you taking into account the level of opposition that teams have left, including against one another, and against us? Brighton alone have Man Utd, Arsenal, Newcastle, Man City, and us. Tottenham have Man Utd, Liverpool, and us. Liverpool have Tottenham obviously, and us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, duke313 said: We'll finish above Brighton and Spurs. I can't imagine that. I really can't. Not with the games we have left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, fightoffyour said: Are you taking into account the level of opposition that teams have left, including against one another, and against us? Brighton alone have Man Utd, Arsenal, Newcastle, Man City, and us. Tottenham have Man Utd, Liverpool, and us. Liverpool have Tottenham obviously, and us. Yes. And the fact the we have to go to Old Trafford and Anfield. I do think we could get 7th above Spurs tho. We need Man United to beat them tomorrow and then we have to make sure we do them at Villa Park but it's possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: I can't imagine that. I really can't. Not with the games we have left. If we assume that Brighton beat Forest tonight, they will then be 2 points behind us. Their remaining games in hand are against Newcastle, Man U and Man City, who they realistically could get nothing from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, duke313 said: If we assume that Brighton beat Forest tonight, they will then be 2 points behind us. Their remaining games in hand are against Newcastle, Man U and Man City, who they realistically could get nothing from. It doesn't work like that though. You could just as easily call any of their games their "game in hand". We have to go to Liverpool and Man United so them having 4 games in hand is absolutely huge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJBOB Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: It doesn't work like that though. You could just as easily call any of their games their "game in hand". We have to go to Liverpool and Man United so them having 4 games in hand is absolutely huge. Eh I just can’t see them getting results of all the games in hand even against weaker opponents. Their bench is as thin as ours and they have to play 5 matches in 15 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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