Hank Scorpio Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) It's weird. You would think a mutually beneficial relationship between the mail and villa should exist. The mail run news to suit villa's agenda eg selling or pushing news of interst in a player villa are trying to sell. Flip side is villa give the mail trusted villa journalist exclusive first news to break. Surely isn't hard and can't see why they don't get on Edited July 19, 2023 by Hank Scorpio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Agree. I just find it weird. Big city with a big famous club known around the globe so you would think the local media would be on board with the two feeding off each other in a more positive way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 I don't want media outlets to 'get on' with the club, or to only run positive articles without considering negative aspects. There should be some healthy skepticism between club and media, otherwise you end up with that berk up in Newcastle whose tongue is so far up Mohammed bin Salman's arse it's cleaned his small intestine. The problem with the Mail is not that they don't spoon the club, it's that the adversarialism isn't the result of any particularly good journalism. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just seen the tifo villa video… it’s not particularly baity or bad.. just concerned about how the new players can fit in, in particular Pau. Some points I see as valid and others over focused on minor things. I’d say this video was made to early in the window, if they waited a few more signings and friendlies, this chap may of had some of his concerns answered and video wouldn’t have a baity title 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 6 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: I never got the hate for Preece, seemed a really good bloke, passionate about Villa Didnt hate him as you say seemed like a nice enough bloke. But he wasnt the sharpest tool in the box. Townley at least seems like he's got a bit more going on upstairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) Sam Tighe is a Villa fan himself and a pretty knowledgeable fella in general. It's a perfectly good video with valid concerns. We don't have to get defensive over everything. Edited July 19, 2023 by Farlz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkLillis Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Farlz said: Sam Tighe is a Villa fan himself and a pretty knowledgeable fella in general. It's a perfectly good video with valid concerns. We don't have to get defensive over everything. Agreed.It was a well presented argument. However we have entirely over estimated Unai Emery and the recruitment team if we are to believe that they haven’t considered things like this. There was a time when journalists or football fans even could pull holes in Villa recruitment and be right. That time is not now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Townsend Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 End of an era there though it is a good few years since the Villa View evolved from what it was. Started out as fam cams, evolved into Matt and Dan doing a lot of discussion type vids on transfers etc (novelty Christmas ones in 2016!), then the Tom and Dan pod and layer the 1874 stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creeper Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, omariqy said: So have they basically combined this with the Athletic pod we had? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted July 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2023 On 19/07/2023 at 07:02, Mr_Dogg said: If you're annoyed by a headline or article, it is succeeding. Yes, maybe a few times. But if you have half a brain, you might start ignoring them, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Creeper said: So have they basically combined this with the Athletic pod we had? No, he’s moved away from being a fan channel and more of a journalist/media show. Think it was a smart move, evolving with the times and trying to be something different to other Villa content. Have a lot of time for Dan and been interesting to watch his growth from fan channel into professional presenter. Always had the clubs best interest at heart, as with all the other Villa content providers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancvillan Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 On 19/07/2023 at 06:35, Captain_Townsend said: Agree. I just find it weird. Big city with a big famous club known around the globe so you would think the local media would be on board with the two feeding off each other in a more positive way Maybe if the mail didn't have four pop-ups, three and videos and 800 other ads as soon as you load a page I'd take them seriously. Now they're basically the online version of the free rag you used to deliver when you were 12 (but you just threw them in the bushes instead). I get they need ad revenue but the site is unusable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 8 hours ago, omariqy said: Does this mean the return of the Villa Talks Podcast Omar? Missed you lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 hours ago, QldVilla said: No, he’s moved away from being a fan channel and more of a journalist/media show. Think it was a smart move, evolving with the times and trying to be something different to other Villa content. Have a lot of time for Dan and been interesting to watch his growth from fan channel into professional presenter. Always had the clubs best interest at heart, as with all the other Villa content providers. Yeah I like Dan and it's good that he has media connections to get different people on like he had last night on Diaby. It's good that it's becoming more of a professional podcast. I see Claret and Blue doing that recently too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 The Southampton writer for the Athletic Jacob Tanswell is moving from there to cover us. Anyone know anything about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 2 hours ago, villaglint said: Does this mean the return of the Villa Talks Podcast Omar? Missed you lot. Not sure at this stage tbh mate. Will let you know if anything changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 On 19/07/2023 at 12:59, villaglint said: Didnt hate him as you say seemed like a nice enough bloke. But he wasnt the sharpest tool in the box. Townley at least seems like he's got a bit more going on upstairs. Rolinson-Kendrick is the best pair for that podcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2023 5 hours ago, QldVilla said: No, he’s moved away from being a fan channel and more of a journalist/media show. Think it was a smart move, evolving with the times and trying to be something different to other Villa content. Have a lot of time for Dan and been interesting to watch his growth from fan channel into professional presenter. Always had the clubs best interest at heart, as with all the other Villa content providers. yep and he has a point - there's a lot of fan driven podcasts out there. MOMS (who i'm not keen on), max stokes, for the love of paul mcgrath, the canadian bloke...the villa park podcast is decent too. it's a sensible decision to make it more of a journalistic show, bringing journos on the show etc. and by doing so, it might improve the way we're being talked about by the media too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted July 21, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, maqroll said: Rolinson-Kendrick is the best pair for that podcast. john townley is a good addition too. enjoyed the matty cash interview. hopefully kendrick is still going to be around though. maybe we should ask his dentist @Mat Kendrick's Dentist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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