Ryan. Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I'm working class, please don't judge me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted July 21, 2008 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2008 Perfect excuse for this classic by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I grew up in the blue collar area of a white collar town. I started working at age 14, but for most of the kids I went to school with, money was not a concern. So when you combine my home life and neighborhood with my larger environment and experiences with different people, I'd probably classify myself as middle class. Some might think otherwise, but who gives a f*ck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 I would agree that not all of those from private school turn out to be complete snobs. The vast majority don't, but it's the ones that do that stand out. I know some people who went there who are great people. Unfortunately I know a few who went there who are so up their arse it's unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 My parents were both working class. I have professional qualifications, am in lower/middle-management, and own my own house in a relatively affluent part of Birmingham. I would have to say i'm middle-class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LancsVillan Posted July 22, 2008 Moderator Share Posted July 22, 2008 It's become more difficult to define in the last twenty years since the people that did working class jobs became able to afford middle class status symbols and the working class stopped working. I think we need some re-definitions of class. Agree with this, grew up with parents both working Dad at Leyland then Land Rover; Mum at Rover subsiary. Hand me downs commonplace - footie boots until I got my own new pair at 14. Lived and brought up in Redditch prior to i going downhill. I have more saved up already than I would get in inheritance; I've personally worked since I was 13 in various jobs until a 10month 'break' last year;, I ask for very little (except more time to play golf and get to Villa) and need even less; I would therefore conside myslef to be of working class stock but now pretty well firmly entrenched in middle class mediocrity. Which I think all VTers who have met me would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 i would define the Classes as: 1) Underclass - doesn't work, and doesn't want to work. Lives off benefits or crime. 2) Working Class - standard job, went to comprehensive school. 3) Middle Class - professional job, decent income, owns house. went to private school, or good comp school. 4) Upper Class - doesn't need to work for a living, as has enough money. Went to private school obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Iam working class..i grew up in a village just outside town with my mother working in cosmetic shop and my father as an ambulance driver. Altough i do have a uncle who is a millionaire and no kids But he started out poor with no education,but created his own business and got very rich from it.. You should see our family gatherings..evrybody is kissing up to him just cause he is rich..it's so bloody pathetic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloBarnesi Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 4) Upper Class - doesn't need to work for a living, as has enough money. Went to private school obviously. If you happen to have inherited a massive estate with a falling down house, the need for a new roof, and death duties, with no money to pay the death duties, you have a pretty stark set of choices to make. You need to make money somehow, and work would seem to be an obvious one. This isn’t to say you should feel sympathy, but the idea that its all an easy life for all of the ‘aristocracy’ is one that doesn’t pan out. Also more likely to have gone to a public school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xliosive Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 i would define the Classes as: 1) Underclass - doesn't work, and doesn't want to work. Lives off benefits or crime. 2) Working Class - standard job, went to comprehensive school. 3) Middle Class - professional job, decent income, owns house. went to private school, or good comp school. 4) Upper Class - doesn't need to work for a living, as has enough money. Went to private school obviously. I would define your list as very subjective. For example: I am currently claiming benefits due to disability but also, have enough money to live off thanks to inheritance and gambling ( I won £500,000) but don't tell the gov! I sell weed in my suburban area to middle class folk who like to dabble now and then whilst swigging a few bottles of chateauneuf du pape (1994). I went to a good comprehensive school. I own my own house. ...What am I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikantcpell Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 i would define the Classes as: 1) Underclass - doesn't work, and doesn't want to work. Lives off benefits or crime. 2) Working Class - standard job, went to comprehensive school. 3) Middle Class - professional job, decent income, owns house. went to private school, or good comp school. 4) Upper Class - doesn't need to work for a living, as has enough money. Went to private school obviously. I would define your list as very subjective. For example: I am currently claiming benefits due to disability but also, have enough money to live off thanks to inheritance and gambling ( I won £500,000) but don't tell the gov! I sell weed in my suburban area to middle class folk who like to dabble now and then whilst swigging a few bottles of chateauneuf du pape (1994). I went to a good comprehensive school. I own my own house. ...What am I? You are a Gangster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 i would define the Classes as: 1) Underclass - doesn't work, and doesn't want to work. Lives off benefits or crime. 2) Working Class - standard job, went to comprehensive school. 3) Middle Class - professional job, decent income, owns house. went to private school, or good comp school. 4) Upper Class - doesn't need to work for a living, as has enough money. Went to private school obviously. I would define your list as very subjective. For example: I am currently claiming benefits due to disability but also, have enough money to live off thanks to inheritance and gambling ( I won £500,000) but don't tell the gov! I sell weed in my suburban area to middle class folk who like to dabble now and then whilst swigging a few bottles of chateauneuf du pape (1994). I went to a good comprehensive school. I own my own house. ...What am I? yes, i would agree that my list is very subjective - that is my definition, i'm sure everyone else will have a different list. What are you? well you are unlucky (disability), yet lucky (winning gambling). The money doesn't make you upper class as your money is 'new money' which doesn't count. Your benefits doesn't make you part of the underclass, as i wasn't thinking about that type of benefit (maybe i should have specified ). But you do like to flirt with the underclass by selling drugs, yet by sticking to soft drugs you aren't serious about it, its more just for fun. I would say you are working class overall, who tried to be middle-class for many years, then thought sod it, tried to be underclass, and in the end, realised your roots, and stayed true to your working class upbringing. correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJRM050389 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I would agree that not all of those from private school turn out to be complete snobs. The vast majority don't, but it's the ones that do that stand out. I know some people who went there who are great people. Unfortunately I know a few who went there who are so up their arse it's unbelievable. That is my experience to from what I've found at uni. I actually think I'm the opposite of a snob, in that I think I can often distance myself from people who I think are upper middle class and upper class. And then over time if they don't display what I generally think are snobby attitudes I let them in. I'm not sure what that makes me and its probably not a good thing but when I hear someone say they are from Henley and they start speaking in a posh accent and talk about their world tour experiences in there gap year (which they automatically think everyone can afford to do) I tend to leave the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturdaygig Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 The class system over, just let go people. It don't matter any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddy Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 The class system over, just let go people. It don't matter any more. Was that a very subtle joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 The class system over, just let go people. It don't matter any more. The class system is not over. It is more blurred than it used to be, but most people still mix in their own social class, and don't move between classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 is 'Chav' its own separate class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 is 'Chav' its own separate class? I suppose there are the Chavs and the Chav-nots. :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I suppose there are the Chavs and the Chav-nots. shame on you you've just risen 3 places in my list of people to have killed for that quip your now 123493 rd if your interested ... number 1 is still the silly bitch at my sons school who can't park her 4 by 4 in a straight line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 I suppose there are the Chavs and the Chav-nots. shame on you Sorry, I couldn't resist though perhaps I ought to have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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