Supervillan78 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 I still think he’ll end up leaving, preferably abroad. Back to Spain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 a Saudi team will be tempted to take him … or he stays and gives us depth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 Happy for him to stay as long as we are still able to get Geertruida. Has covered left centre back in the past too, which helps whilst Mings gets up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marka Ragnos Posted August 20 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20 3 minutes ago, Supervillan78 said: I still think he’ll end up leaving, preferably abroad. Back to Spain? Still 10 more negotiating days, so maybe. I hope he stays, personally, but not if he's not committed all the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QldVilla Posted August 20 VT Supporter Share Posted August 20 Fulham seemed to move quickly onto Anderson and most likely paid more than what Villa would have been asking for Carlos. That the club has certain valuations and won’t move from them shows that we aren’t desperate to sell or move players on. Maybe there’s a deal sitting on the table from Saudi for Carlos and if doesn’t get his move to a PL team or in Europe, he may take that one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Carlos is staying. Lets hope he has a better season than last year. Needs to improve on the aerial side for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 8 hours ago, RichW said: I’d imagine Carlos be difficult to sell now. Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s no more signings. Yeah think for sure Carlos stays, especially adding in the Emery comments from last week. I think we're done for the window too now, maybe there's an attacking player or a Loan coming in but feels unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 So the talks for Carlos collapsed. For whatever reason. We probably asking for a fee too high for them and we can't afford to take a bookable loss on him to sell for a lower fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 I guess there is always the chance on the last few days of the window somebody might panic buy him after this weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 20 minutes ago, RichW said: I guess there is always the chance on the last few days of the window somebody might panic buy him after this weekend! We could be open to a Loan possibly. As with Moreno, a Loan then sale works better than a sale right now in terms of the finances. They will have 1 year left on their contracts next summer and low books values. They also have no incentive really to risk going into final year of contract at the club and would take permanent moves on lower salaries. So it depends. Loaning Carlos out is very difficult and costly. He costs us around £12m per year in wages + amortisation. Nobody is paying a Loan fee near that. So if we loan him and then need to sign a replacement we're getting into very expensive territory. So it seems less likely. I think we keep him and we go with this until Jan and reassess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 57 minutes ago, RichW said: I guess there is always the chance on the last few days of the window somebody might panic buy him after this weekend! Arsenal?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 9 hours ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: Has covered left centre back in the past too He was primarily left sided before he moved here, wasn’t he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killeen30 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Just now, Adam2003 said: He was primarily left sided before he moved here, wasn’t he? Yes, Gerrard brought him in to replace Mings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, CVByrne said: Yeah think for sure Carlos stays, especially adding in the Emery comments from last week. I think we're done for the window too now, maybe there's an attacking player or a Loan coming in but feels unlikely. Thinking the same - but a loan at CB. I think we are done in terms of the attack with Duran staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 18 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: Thinking the same - but a loan at CB. I think we are done in terms of the attack with Duran staying. I think Emery might be happy with having 4 CBs of a high level and I think the decision has been made to give Mings the chance to get back. We can course correct in Jan if we need to. Kamara has many top flight games for Marseille and even European games at CB so we've cover of needed. Onana could also do a job at CB given his talents. Carlos has played a lot at LCB too before he joined us. So he's clearly comfortable there. I think that's the thinking. Next summer might be the time for a big CB signing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 2 hours ago, CVByrne said: So the talks for Carlos collapsed. For whatever reason. We probably asking for a fee too high for them and we can't afford to take a bookable loss on him to sell for a lower fee. So Palace are flush and need a centre half now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon66 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: So Palace are flush and need a centre half now? They'll need 2 CB's when the Geordies cave in and stump up the dough for Guehi...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 If anyone get a deal for him it’s Monchi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Just now, Dillon66 said: They'll need 2 CB's when the Geordies cave in and stump up the dough for Guehi...... I highly doubt they can afford to bid any higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 2 minutes ago, Dillon66 said: They'll need 2 CB's when the Geordies cave in and stump up the dough for Guehi...... Yep - I reckon they might have dibs on Carlos, will suit them and him. Sell 2 players for over £100m, buy Carlos for £12 mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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