Jas10 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Got to remember how serious of an injury he suffered… without that, we would’ve seen a better and more consistent version of him. But, we have to move him on some time in the short term because of his age, wages, remaining time on contract (2 years) and the lack of reliability. If we can do that, while recouping or profiting on the investment we made, there is an opportunity to bring in a more reliable and suitable player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CroVillan Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Just now, Jas10 said: Got to remember how serious of an injury he suffered… without that, we would’ve seen a better and more consistent version of him. But, we have to move him on some time in the short term because of his age, wages, remaining time on contract (2 years) and the lack of reliability. If we can do that, while recouping or profiting on the investment we made, there is an opportunity to bring in a more reliable and suitable player. Maybe Jas but boy does the bloke love a brain fart during a game. Way too unreliable. Sell and get him off our books would be a god send. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Just now, CroVillan said: Maybe Jas but boy does the bloke love a brain fart during a game. Way too unreliable. Sell and get him off our books would be a god send. I don’t disagree but we’ve also seen how good he can be… was important in some of our most impressive wins and performances. I have more sympathy for him than criticism… worked hard on his recovery and his integration (really worked on learning the language, for example, and seems well liked). Was just our luck that a player who stayed fit and regularly performed well at Sevilla should come in and suffer a horrific injury that saw him miss pretty much a whole season. I don’t think we have seen that top La Liga defender here or since his move, it sadly hasn’t gone that well for him. He’s done well to get himself back but I think his body has been regularly letting him down, physical issues have inhibited him imo. Far past his best. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skarroki Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 He suits Fulham down to a tee and he would walk into that side. They've got a good manager and already made some good moves this window. However they've also lost some good, dependable members of the squad. If we can sell in a way which means we clear the amortisation and then get a bit more on top I think he should go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Both, Cash and Carlos, struggle with crosses. One can't seem to stop them coming in, and the other struggles to deal with them competently, when they do. I can't see how constructive, and objective criticism is frowned upon.......Sure rude and personal accusations, are a different thing. Fortunately for us, the manager has to deal with these situations, not us, so if he feels he needs to be moved on, so be it. Unai, will deal with the weaknesses as he sees fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Probably a last day move if the interest from Fulham is genuine (they did lose Tosin and yet to replace him). Makes no sense to sell him now as that just leaves us down to two CBs with one playing regularly at RB so far to thin to start a season when we're playing West Ham and Arsenal first up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 19 hours ago, MapleVilla said: Certainly wasn't our worst defender last season... Genuine question, who was worse than him? Lenglet wasn't great overall. But the drop off wasn't as bad if he partnered one of Konsa or Torres rather than DC and his passing was decent. DC - apart from three games against the two best sides in the division weirdly enough - always looked like an accident waiting to happen. Injuries may have played a part in that, sure. But if we get any sort of fee we're doing well. Or I wonder if we're eyeing up a Fulham squad player for swapsies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, HolteExile said: Genuine question, who was worse than him? Lenglet wasn't great overall. But the drop off wasn't as bad if he partnered one of Konsa or Torres rather than DC and his passing was decent. DC - apart from three games against the two best sides in the division weirdly enough - always looked like an accident waiting to happen. Injuries may have played a part in that, sure. But if we get any sort of fee we're doing well. Or I wonder if we're eyeing up a Fulham squad player for swapsies. Solanke perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Think this might be the last time we might get any decent value for him. If Fulham pays like 12 mill odd and we get his 100k wages of the books it would be good business. Saying that I don't mind him as 4th choice CB as a player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 59 minutes ago, KAZZAM said: Think this might be the last time we might get any decent value for him. If Fulham pays like 12 mill odd and we get his 100k wages of the books it would be good business. Saying that I don't mind him as 4th choice CB as a player. With Mings not ready for the start of the season he is our 3rd CB atm. Realistically if we sold him this window we would need to bring in 2 CBS...tricky situation, I would defo cash in on him if possible, but we might be stuck with him until January at least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Guess we’ll know if anything is close if he’s in the squad tonight or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 3 hours ago, HolteExile said: Genuine question, who was worse than him? Lenglet wasn't great overall. But the drop off wasn't as bad if he partnered one of Konsa or Torres rather than DC and his passing was decent. DC - apart from three games against the two best sides in the division weirdly enough - always looked like an accident waiting to happen. Injuries may have played a part in that, sure. But if we get any sort of fee we're doing well. Or I wonder if we're eyeing up a Fulham squad player for swapsies. I thought Lenglet was worse myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 He wasn't pictured in the final US training session from yesterday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 3 hours ago, PaulC said: I thought Lenglet was worse myself. Lenglet had terrific distribution, but the turning circle of the QEII… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, useless said: He wasn't pictured in the final US training session from yesterday He’s suspended anyway isn’t he? If reds from friendlies cause suspensions. Edited August 3 by WallisFrizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 not in the squad for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MaVilla Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 3 minutes ago, PaulMcGrath_5 said: whats that meant to mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcGrath_5 Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 Just now, MaVilla said: whats that meant to mean? I’m waving to an exclamation mark. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Just now, PaulMcGrath_5 said: I’m waving to an exclamation mark. it seems this is true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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