May-Z Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, MaVilla said: putting Costa & Mings side by side is interesting, also added Tarkowski, Konsa & Chambers for fyi's: Where's the Arm Flapping: 100 for Konsa? These stats clearly don't tell you anything if that's not included. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: What sort of bullshit is this I suppose Harvey Elliott and Joao Carvalho will be immediate starters for Liverpool next season We had a get rich quick scheme before under the charlatan ONeill and we are going the same path If u care to read the rest of my post I said that we need succession planning. Elliot and Carvalho will not be immediate starters next season for Liverpool. They will be eased in to the team. But PL teams need to react to the now and have players that can immediately deliver. If you think Elliot and Carvalho are first team starters for a club looking to win the league I think it is you that is talking bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, May-Z said: Where's the Arm Flapping: 100 for Konsa? These stats clearly don't tell you anything if that's not included. thats on a separate page friend. Data for konsa is here: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, paul514 said: If he continues on the Digne, Coutinho, Carlos model it would. Aside from Suarez and Tarkowski, most of the other links like Bissouma and Bassey for example have been younger end of age. He always said he wanted to buy some experience into the squad. Ahh well I’m going to judge each player individually, I’m not too concerned at the moment with age. Edited May 26, 2022 by nick76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Just now, nick76 said: Aside from Suarez and Tarkowski, most of the other links like Bissouma and Bassey for example have been younger end of age. He always said he wanted to buy some experience into the squad. Like I said he can sign who he likes, I have my opinions on who we should sign like everyone else. I just worry about our financial future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, Chine said: A few people seem worried about this signing regarding age , footballers nowadays are specimens with the diet and regime, very little alcohol / smoking , the whole lifestyle is based on prep and recovery which promotes longevity, I’m not saying they’ll last forever but you can get a few more quality miles out of most Jack Grealish says hello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Just now, paul514 said: Like I said he can sign who he likes, I have my opinions on who we should sign like everyone else. I just worry about our financial future. No point in worrying over something that may or may not happen, especially when there's bugger all one can do about it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway Lion Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 minute ago, paul514 said: Like I said he can sign who he likes, I have my opinions on who we should sign like everyone else. I just worry about our financial future. I think two multi billionaires aren’t worried about our financial future so I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it, if I was you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chine Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 minute ago, imavillan said: Jack Grealish says hello , I never mentioned drugs!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 minute ago, brommy said: No point in worrying over something that may or may not happen, especially when there's bugger all one can do about it anyway. 1 minute ago, Galway Lion said: I think two multi billionaires aren’t worried about our financial future so I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it, if I was you. I get what you are saying I just can't help it. I am very comfortable with them dashing loads of cash on younger players on lower wages because you can always get a half decent fee for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, paul514 said: Like I said he can sign who he likes, I have my opinions on who we should sign like everyone else. I just worry about our financial future. Do you not remember the glorious MON days of signing Heskey, Dunne and Beye plus a few more on high wages and being 28 plus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thabucks Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) Why have we all of a sudden become interested and so hung up on age and resale value… This isn’t being built on quick sand like the Lerner years. Bottom to the top no expanse has been spared to build a platform for future success. Imagine what Bogarde, Smith, Feeney, Swinkels can learn from Carlos (and poss Tarkowski & Mings,) as they progress through to the first team hopefully over the 2/3 seasons. Coinciding with the fact that they’ll slowly need replacing one by one and the plan being to have ready made replacements in line to step up. Singing experienced and better quality players like Carlos is a no brainer. he is exactly what we need ! So stoked and proud to be a Villa fan right now ! Edited May 26, 2022 by thabucks 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MWARLEY2 Posted May 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, paul514 said: Like I said he can sign who he likes, I have my opinions on who we should sign like everyone else. I just worry about our financial future. This isnt a ride till the wheels fall off scenario. Our owners are serious **** guys. They have left us with zero debt and pay for all the infrastructure themselves . Leaving our revenues which are around £135 mill a year to pay for wages and transfers PLUS them allowing to be 105 mill in the red over a 3 year period. And all the while this is happening they are looking at expanding the brand worldwide with the Las Vegas Villans and probably more opportunites in clubs round the world. I think that on top of this they simply want to have some fun and see better and better players at our club. And who are we to deny them that when they literally took us from the brink 4 years ago. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 26, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Nigel said: Good to see he can score from a corner too! One of my biggest annoyances lack of corner goals from Central Defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 1 minute ago, thabucks said: Why have we all of a sudden become interested and so hung up on age and resale value… This isn’t being built on quick sand like the Lerner years. Bottom to the top no expanse has been spared to build a platform for future success. Imagine what Bogarde, Smith, Feeney, Swinkels can learn from Carlos and Tarkowski & Mings as they progress through to the first team hopefully over the next few seasons. By that time they’ll be needing replacing one by one and the plan is to have ready made replacements. Signing a 20-23 yo CB could block pathways given that you would hopefully not look to replace for an long time all being well . So stoked and proud to be a Villa fan right now ! Not resale value… but fat wages we can’t shift in a few years time. essentally Everton’s, Barcelona’s and a few French teams problem now. A team with with some older players on big wages that have rapidly dropped off in form. No one is taking them players and These teams FFP head room is maxed out. Now these teams are in a situation where they can’t buy anyone unless they shift players, which they are struggling to do so, unless it’s their inform players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, thabucks said: Why have we all of a sudden become interested and so hung up on age and resale value… This isn’t being built on quick sand like the Lerner years. Bottom to the top no expanse has been spared to build a platform for future success. Imagine what Bogarde, Smith, Feeney, Swinkels can learn from Carlos and Tarkowski & Mings as they progress through to the first team hopefully over the next few seasons. By that time they’ll be needing replacing one by one and the plan is to have ready made replacements. Signing a 20-23 yo CB could block pathways given that you would hopefully not look to replace for an long time all being well . So stoked and proud to be a Villa fan right now ! Fair enough but Ronaldo has made Rashford get worse this season. What could James Tarkowski or Suarez actually teach Suarez:once I racially abused a guy and then i bit on a few other guys Tarkowski: I once saw my teammate ruin a guys career but he was the team leader so i couldnt say anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: Do you not remember the glorious MON days of signing Heskey, Dunne and Beye plus a few more on high wages and being 28 plus 6th, 6th, 6th...and then erm....9th? 16th?..down. I don't want that again. I don't mind an injection of real quality, but the focus should generally be players under 25. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: 6th, 6th, 6th...and then erm....9th? 16th?..down. I don't want that again. I don't mind an injection of real quality, but the focus should generally be players under 25. I am not saying Diego Carlos is a bad signing but him, Coutinho, Digne maybe Suarez they wont all age well Coutinho denial is very worrying if honest. He is fine but i think the hype is a bit much, he isnt the player he was before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tomaszk said: 6th, 6th, 6th...and then erm....9th? 16th?..down. I don't want that again. I don't mind an injection of real quality, but the focus should generally be players under 25. When the season started, only Mings, Martinez and later Young were the only players above 27 in our team. We're plenty young already, especially if we have plans for Carney and co to break into the first team. We have plenty of room for quality players already in their prime such as Coutinho, Digne and now Carlos. Plus it's not like we didn't sign one of the hottest midfield prospects too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: I am not saying Diego Carlos is a bad signing but him, Coutinho, Digne maybe Suarez they wont all age well Coutinho denial is very worrying if honest. He is fine but i think the hype is a bit much, he isnt the player he was before Which is why he cost £17 mill rather than £117 mill . As we saw on Sunday the guy still has loads left to give. That first touch before the goal was something no other Villa player that has gone before him was capable of doing in my opinion. Yes we will not get prime Coutinho but we will still get moments like that on a regular basis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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