duke313 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: I’ve never heard anyone say he is that good, I think a few on here just want so sing him based on his cool name and price tag, without actually knowing much about the player, Lucas Dinge was deemed to old at the grand age of 28 when we signed him, but Diego Carlos at 29 is great business apparently. Maybe you don't watch enough Sevilla matches? He's a starting centre back for a team that qualified for the CL and conceded the least amount of goals in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Red Cards and mistakes? Konsa and Mings he’s coming for you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwi1890 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, duke313 said: Maybe you don't watch enough Sevilla matches? He's a starting centre back for a team that qualified for the CL and conceded the least amount of goals in the league. Does he represent good value at £30m? I mean people were quick to say that Dinge didn’t, I’m not scoffing at his ability or the fact he played champions league football, but there’s a few in our squad now that have played champions league football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Red Cards and mistakes? Konsa and Mings he’s coming for you He only has 4 yellows and 1 red, Kounde has more reds i'm assuming you wouldn't turn him down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 It’s the same problem as focusing on stats alone - it doesn’t tell the entire story nor define his ability. I trust Lange and the board on whatever targets they identify. Of course, it’s speculation and I take with salt, but I think a lot of people will be shocked by our business this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, duke313 said: He only has 4 yellows and 1 red, Kounde has more reds i'm assuming you wouldn't turn him down? It was a joke in reference to that stat on the last page. In reality most defenders will pick up cards and make a couple of mistakes a season. Whoever we bring in ill be confident in, because we’ll finally have that proper layer of protection infront of them in Kamara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke313 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: It was a joke in reference to that stat on the last page. In reality most defenders will pick up cards and make a couple of mistakes a season. Whoever we bring in ill be confident in, because we’ll finally have that proper layer of protection infront of them in Kamara. He's a tad pricey, and a bit older than you'd like. But him and Kounde have been absolutely solid for Sevilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Indigo said: Was going to say, he's largely regarded as an excellent player but makes quite a noticeable amount of big errors at the same time. Think certain fans' heads would explode if you partnered him with Mings. So he's the Right sided version of Mings? Get him in! We love a character that we love to hate, and love! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 See I don't think this is as sure a thing as Tarkowski would be. He'd be on same wages but we'd be paying about £30m for a guy who may not settle or could struggle with the league for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Mentioned him last week. Newcastle have moved onto other targets now so yeah he's out there given he was interested in leaving them in January. Seems Gerrard wants to sign an experienced and proven CB to keep Mings in check and calm him down on occasions so why not as he's done very well for Sevilla last few years. Always feels we never go wrong with Scandinavian CB but not sure who's the best one out there these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheStagMan Posted May 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Rustibrooks said: of course lol According to some people on here, those stats are much much higher for Mings. Having read the match threads, he is directly responsible for at least 426 of the goals we conceded this season. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Rustibrooks said: of course lol Are those stats actually supposed to be bad? Loads of top CBs get sent off once a season, again more penalties given now due to VAR so one could be given for shirt pulling at corner or ball being smashed at his arm. Those stats above are basically describing Mings from 20/21 and he had a pretty good season given how strong defensively we were up to March. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, gwi1890 said: Does he represent good value at £30m? I mean people were quick to say that Dinge didn’t, I’m not scoffing at his ability or the fact he played champions league football, but there’s a few in our squad now that have played champions league football. Starting CBs aren't supposed to cost 30m? We signed Mings when he'd played about 20 prem games for 25m and Konsa was 15m despite never playing a prem game. Both been good value for us even if we've seen their flaws in trying to push us into top 10. Think issue here is Sevilla more likely to sell Jules Kounde who Chelsea really want and he'll be in 50m bracket so can't see them cashing in on both of their starting CBs. Edited May 25, 2022 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Always feels we never go wrong with Scandinavian CB but not sure who's the best one out there these days. Kjaer maybe or Christensen but probably wouldn't have a chance at either then be maybe Ajer, Lindelof or Andersen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Just now, Zatman said: Kjaer maybe or Christensen but probably wouldn't have a chance at either then be maybe Ajer, Lindelof or Andersen Kjaer well into his 30s, Christensen going to Barca and seemingly not the most reliable player. Lindelof, no thanks. Big fan of Joachim Anderson but he'd be in 40m bracket given how well he's done at Palace. Should've got him last summer given he can play in a back 3 and we quickly changed to that in the dark final days of Dean Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Not the classic blood and guts type of defender that some people will want, but leagues better than our other CBs on the ball. Hell, better than most of our midfielders on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustibrooks Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 For the record lads I’m ok with us being interested, I just thought it was funny that those stats came up after our interest in him was announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 From Twitter (Rubén Uría @rubenuria): Jules Koundé y Diego Carlos, en el radar de la Premier. Chelsea y Aston Villa, interés y futura ofensiva. Aún no hay ofertas concretas. Si hay negociación, el Sevilla tendrá la sartén por el mango. Cláusula Diego Carlos, 80 M€. Cláusula Koundé, 90 M€. https://goal.com/es/noticias/kounde-y-diego-carlos-la-premier-league-viene-a-por-los/blta2140811385410a2… Translated: Jules Koundé and Diego Carlos, on the radar of the Premier. Chelsea and Aston Villa, interest and future offensive. There are no concrete offers yet. If there is a negotiation, Sevilla will have the upper hand. Diego Carlos Clause, 80 M € . Koundé Clause, 90 M € . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 29 you say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weedman Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Rustibrooks said: of course lol Sounds like a ready made Villa player 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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